# F Merrick Garland. (He won't be going after anyone)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190 "2022-07-19T06:39:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/621 "2023-08-02T05:13:42Z")

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Who knew the secret to eating crow was to slow roast it?

Mmm… slow roasted crow.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/622 "2023-08-02T06:40:12Z")

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I love me some crow!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/623 "2023-08-02T08:26:48Z")

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Reminds me of that supposed Klingon maxim, _Revenge is a dish best served cold_. But Klingons don’t strike me as the sort to have such patience.

Ah, this, though, is warming my cockles!

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/624 "2023-08-02T12:02:29Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Ah, this, though, is warming my cockles!

Please, we’re trying to run a family message board here. 😉

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/625 "2023-08-02T12:10:01Z")

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[In The BBQ Pit?](https://img.c3dt.com/cjRFQWZTSzVlMEJobUVWcWk2Y2dyUT09=w200)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/626 "2023-08-02T13:02:37Z")

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Slow smoked crow. Yum.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/627 "2023-08-02T14:15:22Z")

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This is good news, I can’t keep up a political argument against Garland anymore, but it ain’t over yet folks.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/628 "2023-08-02T15:24:47Z")

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Word. The crow is delicious but this is America. Rich people don’t get convicted in America!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/629 "2023-08-02T15:42:56Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Rich people don’t get convicted in America!

Sometimes they hang themselves in jail before it gets that far.

But in a country where Martha Stewart served time, anything is possible!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/630 "2023-08-02T15:45:36Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Rich people don’t get convicted in America!

The [Menendez brothers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_and_Erik_Men%C3%A9ndez) would beg to disagree.

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/631 "2023-08-02T19:01:49Z")

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Paging Michael Milken, paging Ivan Boesky…

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/632 "2023-08-02T19:52:56Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> This is good news, I can’t keep up a political argument against Garland anymore,

I can. He deserves credit for his choice of Jack Smith, but waiting a couple years before taking Trump’s criminality seriously is still pretty unforgivable.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/633 "2023-08-02T19:56:25Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> waiting a couple years before taking Trump’s criminality seriously is still pretty unforgivable.

It does not matter one iota when charges were brought.

It would be spun as:  
Too early - you did not do a proper investigation  
Too late - what took you so long?

It’s binary. Heads he loses, tails he loses. No matter what, it’s bad. This is how things are right now, politically.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/634 "2023-08-02T20:21:53Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> I can. He deserves credit for his choice of Jack Smith, but waiting a couple years before taking Trump’s criminality seriously is still pretty unforgivable.

I’m a little torn on this. His delay was unnecessary. But further delays that don’t allow a trial before the election may not be his fault. And I want to enjoy what happens from this point on and not drown in water under the bridge,

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/635 "2023-08-02T20:32:13Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> His delay was unnecessary.

I don’t want to derail or hijack the thread, but I had a semi-inebriated conversation with a fellow Trump-hater last night regarding the indictments. His theory was that Garland/Smith, Fani Willis, and Letitia James all waited a couple of years to investigate and charge Trump, choosing to wait until it became apparent that he was again running for president. IOW, if he had chosen not to run, they would have let things slide.

Makes some sense, I guess, but I was of the opinion that they all waited until they had rock-solid cases.

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/636 "2023-08-02T20:33:42Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> IOW, if he had chosen not to run, they would have let things slide.

I hope that’s not true. These charges should have been brought regardless. The right wing narrative is that they are filed now just because he’s running (and winning!)

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/637 "2023-08-02T21:29:41Z")

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I heard a cable news guest today state that it was unusual to bring conspiracy charges, but only have one defendant.  
My thought was: “What if the others flipped?”

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/638 "2023-08-02T21:42:23Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> but waiting a couple years before taking Trump’s criminality seriously is still pretty unforgivable.

Why do you think he waited? Do you think that the indictment is the start of building the case?

Because first you need to gather the evidence before you charge the crime.

And sometimes the evidence needs to come from people who decide to cooperate.

And sometimes convincing people to decide to cooperate takes time.

This point has been made many times on these boards, but let’s repeat it again: the feds win nearly every case they file, because they don’t file them until they know they can win.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/639 "2023-08-03T00:28:29Z")

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I’m sitting down to a plate of crow myself, it’s still a bit gamey but at this point I don’t mind so much.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/640 "2023-08-03T00:55:44Z")

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I think one valid point is that it took too long to get the indictments. We’re at a point at which Trump has a valid strategy to introduce enough delays that the trial date is after the election. Sure, maybe Garland was taking time to build the best case possible, but in doing so it gave Trump a strategy to wiggle out. It seems like a lot of things have to go just right for the trial to happen before the election. An unexpected event here and a legal shenanigan there could push the trial date out farther and farther. They should have been acting with more urgency along the way to ensure that they had the maximum amount of time between indictments and trial. It seemed like they were just walking the process along. They needed someone like Jack Smith driving this from the start.

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