# F Merrick Garland. (He won't be going after anyone) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190 "2022-07-19T06:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/641 "2023-08-03T01:13:25Z")
He could always withdraw his candidacy, making a personal sacrifice for the benefit of the nation and the greater good. Ha ha ha ha ha. I’ll see myself out. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/642 "2023-08-03T01:14:59Z")
Judge Chutkan already rejected one of Trump’s tactics during the Jan. 6 riot investigation. > **[Federal judge refuses Trump request to block Jan. 6 records](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-us-supreme-court-congress-capitol-siege-81abcdc965fe19597e5289e63ae7850b)** > > A federal judge has rejected former President Donald Trump’s request to block the release of documents to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. U.S. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/643 "2023-08-03T03:06:48Z")
Maybe addend the thread title? {crow eaten 8-1-2023} ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/644 "2023-08-03T05:42:16Z")
Just to show there are no hard feelings I’ll posit an alternative theory that supports the not gonna charge anybody Garland group even though I don’t actually support this view. It might be that he was forced to take action due to the classified documents case. Even if the thought moving on was good for the country he couldn’t ignore the security threat that leaving Trump with the documents posed. So he had to launch the Mar Largo raid. Then once that happened, the die was cast and it was in for a penny in for a pound, and so he might as well throw the book at him. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/645 "2023-08-03T07:40:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Reminds me of that supposed Klingon maxim, _Revenge is a dish best served cold_. But Klingons don’t strike me as the sort to have such patience. [Revenge is like serving cold cuts.](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/335aa77f-4711-446f-9e35-c64856695fed) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/646 "2023-08-03T07:41:51Z")
I read that in Charles Barkley’s voice. Fucking Subway. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/647 "2023-08-03T12:32:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Reminds me of that supposed Klingon maxim, _Revenge is a dish best served cold_. But Klingons don’t strike me as the sort to have such patience. More to the point is one of my all-time favorites, from the English poet John Dryden: > [@](#): > > Beware the fury of a patient man. Press on. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/648 "2023-08-03T15:04:34Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It does not matter one iota when charges were brought. > > It would be spun as: > Too early - you did not do a proper investigation > Too late - what took you so long? > > It’s binary. Heads he loses, tails he loses. No matter what, it’s bad. This is how things are right now, politically. It does matter if Trump can manage to delay the conclusion of all these trials until after the election and win the election in the meantime. If earlier reports were true that the beginning of the efforts that bore fruit against Trump (the lies and tampering with officials/courts) was delayed beyond necessity in favor of a bottom-up investigation starting with the people who actually stormed the capital, the delay could be extremely relevant. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/649 "2023-08-03T17:49:32Z")
I’m kinda hoping for serendipitous timing that has him convicted at a moment when it’s too late for the Pubbies to effectively replace him on the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/650 "2023-08-03T18:49:35Z")
I’m not. I’m afraid he’ll win the election anyway, and pardon himself. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/651 "2023-08-03T18:59:43Z")
I’m afraid of massive election interference from Russia. That’s their only winning strategy from the evil shit-show that they created for themselves in Ukraine. A Trump win would guarantee the loss of US assistance for Ukraine and a Russian victory with all that entails. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/652 "2023-08-04T02:14:51Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > We’re at a point at which Trump has a valid strategy to introduce enough delays that the trial date is after the election. > [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > It does matter if Trump can manage to delay the conclusion of all these trials until after the election and win the election in the meantime. So what will you naysayers scarf down when the timing works out just fine and donald is convicted in advance of November 2024? Crows seems too delicious at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/653 "2023-08-04T02:26:25Z")
I get the feeling that this latest case won’t get delayed very long. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/654 "2023-08-04T03:28:20Z")
I will obviously be happy if he gets convicted. Hopefully it doesn’t get delayed beyond necessity and they can wrap it up before the general election but with how unorthodox Trump is willing to be I’d like there to be more wiggle room. Especially if it wasn’t necessary for the DOJ to take this long since Garland took over. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/655 "2023-08-04T21:08:17Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It does not matter one iota when charges were brought. Of course it does. You don’t think having a couple years to spread his toxic rhetoric has no impact? And regardless, the question when it comes to Garland…without the congressional investigation, would it have happened at all? Garland fucked this up. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Too early - you did not do a proper investigation > Too late - what took you so long? Right, so why wait? Waiting because of political perception is dangerous when dealing with insurrectionists and gained absolutely nothing. Fuck Garland. > [@Moriarty](#): > > Why do you think he waited? Do you think that the indictment is the start of building the case? No. That Jan 6 commissions was the start of building the case. Note that once Jack Smith took over, we got a steady stream of new about his investigation. > [@Moriarty](#): > > Because first you need to gather the evidence before you charge the crime. Which took the Jan 6 commission about a year. What was Garland doing before this? You know we’ve had reports, from reputably source like the Washington Post, stating he did nothing. > [@Moriarty](#): > > And sometimes the evidence needs to come from people who decide to cooperate. Yeah, Raskin, Schiff et al had no problem getting cooperation from White House fucking lawyers. Where was Garland? Building from the bottom up I guess is the nicest thing you can say about him, but that turned out to be a stupid strategy. > [@Moriarty](#): > > So what will you naysayers scarf down when the timing works out just fine and donald is convicted in advance of November 2024? That they got lucky. You really thing Garland is some sort of mastermind that took a big risk to time it like this? Seriously? What will you Garland fans scarf down when trials are delayed and Trump gets elected? If this was Garland’s strategy, it makes him even more awful as far as I’m concerned. If he sacrificed having Trump in jail now in order to try to convict him near the 2024 election would be shameful. If this is the best defense of Garland you have…my god. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/656 "2023-08-04T22:10:49Z")
Don’t bother, Yookeroo hates Garland and will make any excuse to shit all over him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/657 "2023-08-04T22:14:05Z")
Yes, that’s pretty apparent. “I hate him and so should you”. Not much of substance there. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/658 "2023-08-04T22:14:54Z")
It doesn’t matter if Trump gets convicted or not. He’s still going to run. He needs to get convicted AND we still need to win the election for any of this to matter. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/659 "2023-08-04T22:16:03Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > He needs to get convicted AND we still need to win the election for any of this to matter. It’s fucked up but you are not wrong. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190/660 "2023-08-05T01:50:14Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > It doesn’t matter if Trump gets convicted or not. He’s still going to run. > > He needs to get convicted AND we still need to win the election for any of this to matter. Yup. Although I’m hoping some of the state charges will stick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190.md?page=34)