# F@\*& you Shirley Sherrod!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513 "2010-07-29T22:31:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/41 "2010-07-30T01:01:17Z")

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> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> and therein lies the whole of the arguement. we’re all good little ponies with no prejudices. fuck you. you’re all guilty. WE are all guilty.
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> Let’s move on beyond that now. We’ll thank each other later.

Can you coherently explain, in small words, exactly what point you think you just made?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/42 "2010-07-30T01:03:40Z")

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Dewey defeats Truman!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/43 "2010-07-30T01:05:19Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> > [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> > and therein lies the whole of the arguement. we’re all good little ponies with no prejudices. fuck you. you’re all guilty. WE are all guilty.
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> > Let’s move on beyond that now. We’ll thank each other later.
> 
> Can you coherently explain, in small words, exactly what point you think you just made?

I think it’s something along the lines of, “see, this black chick admits she had a racist thought, so it’s totally okay for me to be racist!”

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/44 "2010-07-30T01:06:38Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> I’m giving this a minus 2.  
> You try to rant and insult somebody and instead get the facts wrong enough demonstrate what a dipshit you are. I would have given you a lower score but I did laugh so that saved you from being deeper in the whole.
> 
> Since you got this so horribly wrong I’m going to suggest a title for your next rant.  
> I should go F@\*& Myself
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> then just link to this threads OP.

You’re being generous, since the worst thing is not how colossally misinformed he is, but that he’s so incredibly late about it. Even the right wing nutjobs can’t escape the “unpleasant” truth of the situation (though they still do their best to spin it in a negative light), but I guess the OP didn’t get the memo. Interesting to see the rock he’s been under recently…

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**Author:** ![NOLA\_Cajun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@NOLA\_Cajun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NOLA_Cajun)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/45 "2010-07-30T01:07:21Z")

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Well I’d never want to be accused of not “manning” up. With that in mind I have an erection and I’m owning this: The video was shit. It showed a woman being a racist that realized she was wrong, kind of like a lot of us have in our lives and then we realize everyone is pretty much assholes… or was it superior? etc… ??

M’kay… imagine this was a white person, same speech, different audience? Does that change anything? It doesn’t for me because it was still honest and from personal experience. That doesn’t make it any less right or wrong. Have you ever been discriminated against? I have but so what? My life goes on so fuck that jerk.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/46 "2010-07-30T01:08:09Z")

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Shirley Sherrod appears to be progressively stealing more and more of the OP’s punctuation with each successive post that he makes. Is there _nothing_ this woman won’t stoop to? :mad:

edit: Oh great, and now she gave it back just in time to ruin my joke. THANKS A LOT, STUPID SHIRLEY SHERROD.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/47 "2010-07-30T01:10:02Z")

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> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> M’kay.. imagine this was a white person, same speech, different audience? Does that change anything? It doesn’t for me because it was still honest and from personal experience. That doesn’t make it any less right or wrong. Have you ever been discriminated against? I have but so what? My life goes on so fuck that jerk.

Discriminated against? You? And here I thought literacy tests were unconstitutional.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/48 "2010-07-30T01:15:17Z")

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Indeed, if a white person would have changed his ways and publicly recanted from racist, he would forever be a social pariah. Thus the all-too-short political career of Robert Byrd.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/49 "2010-07-30T01:17:01Z")

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Poor Bob. We hardly knew ya.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/50 "2010-07-30T01:20:00Z")

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Is mad cow disease spreading through the boards? I’ve been reading here for years and it seems like teh crazy is spreading in an unprecedented manner these last few months.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/51 "2010-07-30T01:22:54Z")

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Worst. Pit thread. Ever.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/52 "2010-07-30T01:23:10Z")

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I can tell you this: if you ever see Shirley Sherrod driving without her headlights on, _DON’T FLASH YOUR LIGHTS AT HER_. She’ll likely toss a Molotov into your car- it’s part of the initiation for her new USDA job.

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**Author:** ![NOLA\_Cajun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@NOLA\_Cajun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NOLA_Cajun)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/53 "2010-07-30T01:31:03Z")

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Idiots. It went from racist to class warfare. What’s the difference? Fucking assholes. (not literally).

I wish i was rich so I could really be offended.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/54 "2010-07-30T01:36:16Z")

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> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> Well I’d never want to be accused of not “manning” up. With that in mind I have an erection and I’m owning this: The video was shit. It showed a woman being a racist that realized she was wrong, kind of like a lot of us have in our lives and then we realize everyone is pretty much assholes.. or was it superior? etc… ??
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> M’kay.. imagine this was a white person, same speech, different audience? Does that change anything? It doesn’t for me because it was still honest and from personal experience. That doesn’t make it any less right or wrong. Have you ever been discriminated against? I have but so what? My life goes on so fuck that jerk.

You are referring to an edited version. The speech actually is about her apologizing for harboring some bigotry when she started her job. But she grew. She found that blacks and whites shared the same problems . She had overcome her bigotry and learned an important lesson. It is a speech about overcoming prejudice. It is a talk about hope and growth.  
The big noise was over the Brietbart edited version that cut out the life lesson and growth. It was dishonest. that is why everybody wonders where you have been. Sherrod is going to sue Brietbart for the lie he perpetrated.  
You have to get out a little more. Even Fox has distanced themselves from the story.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/55 "2010-07-30T01:43:20Z")

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Class warfare: hmmm.

I saw the CNN interview with the white farmer in question. He and his wife were grateful to Ms. Sherrod: they believe that they would have lost their farm without her help.

The fact that this guy managed to keep his farm from the early 1980s to today indicates that he has a decent skill set. But, man, the guy sure wasn’t articulate. It’s easy for me to imagine that some lawyers would advise the guy to just declare bankruptcy and liquidate his farm. To her credit, Sherrod figured out how to connect him to a lawyer who would try a different approach: she also had the verbal skills to introduce the farmer to the new lawyer and explain the situation.

Anyway, that’s where class and poverty come in: middle class kids who have a pronounced weakness in school often get extra help. Kids without pro-active parents don’t and have to deal with the consequences later.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/56 "2010-07-30T01:48:59Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> … And so she worked just as hard to help the white farmers as the black ones – a fact that’s been testified to by the original white farmer she was reluctant to help.
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> Breitbart only showed the first part of the story where she talked about her initial negative feelings about the white farmers. He completely left out the bit where she explained how she overcame those feelings. He’s a complete scumbag and I hope she takes him to the cleaners.
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> And you’ve been played for a big sucker by some right-wing liar. Congratulations.

I hope she wins, wins BIG, and wipes him out completely. All ALL this bullshit SUPPOSEDLY happened, uhhhhhnnn HOW many years ago, and the scumbag dredged it up now, after uhhhhhnnn HOW many years? I hope she kicks his ass in court.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/57 "2010-07-30T01:52:09Z")

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> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> I wish i was rich so I could really be offended.

You’re just another right-wing sucker, gobbling up whatever shit sandwich Fox News tosses your way, and thinking its prime rib. You were lied to and played like a cheap harmonica and you’re such a fucking tool you’re still defending the people who shit on your plate.

Imagine you go to your local high school and give a speech telling kids to stay off drugs. You illustrate your point with an anecdote about resisting the temptation to take drugs when you were younger. A few months later it turns on _The Daily Show_, heavily edited, making it sound like you were encouraging kids to shoot up heroin in class. Your boss finds out about it and fires you. You don’t think that … just maybe … you might have grounds to sue Jon Stewart for running such a false and libelous video?

But go ahead, keep swallowing the shit. Keep blaming the crappy taste in your mouth on the liberals, and the blacks, and the unions, and whoever else the rich fucks jerking your puppet strings tell you to hate. In your heart, you love being their bitch.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/58 "2010-07-30T01:55:24Z")

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This is the most retarded attempt at frantic flailing backpedaling from a ludicrously misinformed position that I’ve seen in. . . oh, I can’t start to pin it down. Goalposts moving like we’re playing Missile Command.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/59 "2010-07-30T02:00:29Z")

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I opened this thread absolutely certain it was some sort of piss-take. Well, I’ll be damned if it wasn’t.

Dumbest OP I’ve seen in months, if not years.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/60 "2010-07-30T02:05:36Z")

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> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#):
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> It went from racist to class warfare.

I’m idly curious. How did it go from racist to classist in the exactly three hours from your OP to this post?

I’m also idly curious as to what, in your opinion, has made the story an example of class warfare.

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