# F@\*& you Shirley Sherrod! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513 "2010-07-29T22:31:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/81 "2010-07-30T15:26:19Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I hope she wins, wins BIG, and wipes him out completely. I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/82 "2010-07-30T15:26:33Z")
> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#): > > M’kay.. imagine this was a white person, same speech, different audience? Does that change anything? It doesn’t for me because it was still honest and from personal experience. That doesn’t make it any less right or wrong. Have you ever been discriminated against? I have but so what? My life goes on so fuck that jerk. CAN YOU SEE HER? I WANT YOU TO PICTURE THAT LITTLE GIRL. [chokes up] NOW IMAGINE SHE’S WHITE. You got us Matthew! Your smooth talking exposed our latent racism! Damn you are good! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/83 "2010-07-30T15:35:51Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > CAN YOU SEE HER? I WANT YOU TO PICTURE THAT LITTLE GIRL. [chokes up] NOW IMAGINE SHE’S WHITE. Nancy Grace? When did you join? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/84 "2010-07-30T15:52:29Z")
> [@NOLA\_Cajun](#): > > So let me make sure I have this right: Ok let’s see… > [@](#): > > You are video taped many years ago Strike one. > [@](#): > > making racist comments and the video must have been released by the NAACP Strike two. > [@](#): > > and somehow Breitbart gets ahold of it and posts it online (an exerpt from what i’ve seen) and states his mission is to show the NAACP as racists? Strike Three One out. next Batter… > [@](#): > > First off, Breitbart, most of us already knew that about them, Them? Umm Strike One > [@](#): > > but kudos to the video because there are people that need to also know. Strike Two. > [@](#): > > But so fucking what? Racism only works if the people being targeted live in it. Strike three. Two outs. Nnext batter. > [@](#): > > Actually the farmers she did help seemed prenty damned happy with the results. Oooooh, a single! > [@](#): > > She could have done more. Her words, not mine. Strike One > [@](#): > > And what the fuck was she talking about this “superior” shit? I didn’t hear anything she said that they may have said that made them act like they were “superior”. Sounds like you just have poor self esteem and assume everyone is or acts superior to you. I would have fired you just on that. But hey, it’s the federal government. If they fired everyone that was incompetent then who would be left? And fuck it, just for kicks let’s blame it all on Fox News and Beck. Strike two on a ball in the dirt > [@](#): > > So fuck you, Shirley Sherrod. You are a racist and incompetent. I guess in retrospect you should sue someone. You’ve had no awakening. Strike three…three outs. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/85 "2010-07-30T17:41:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. Does “Georgia State Director of Rural Development” count as a public figure? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/86 "2010-07-30T17:45:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. What did the jury say in that case? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/87 "2010-07-30T17:56:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. > > Does “Georgia State Director of Rural Development” count as a public figure? She might. She certainly wasn’t any kind of famous national name, but she was a public official who oversaw a significant amount of aid around the state. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. > > What did the jury say in that case? It’s the Surpeme Court case that established the standards a public figure has to meet in order to prove libel. The court ruled that a statement about a public figure could not be considered libel unless the publisher of the statement either knew it was false, or that the statement was published it reckless disregard of its truth or falseness. It’s a much higher standard than the one non-public figures have to meet. I think they only need to show that the statement was false and that it damaged their reputation. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/88 "2010-07-30T18:01:55Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > I do too, because I have long felt that the standards enunciated in _New York Times v. Sullivan_ were ridiculously unfair to public figures that are libeled. > > What did the jury say in that case? Jury found for the respondant. The appellate court affirmed that decision. Supreme Court reversed and remanded. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/89 "2010-07-30T18:09:57Z")
NOLA is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/90 "2010-07-30T18:37:08Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I’m a little unclear. Does the OP have it right? Once. In 1960. For 20 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/91 "2010-07-30T23:24:12Z")
> [@gravitycrash](#): > > Jesus Cajun, have you been living in a closet for the past week? So what you’re saying is that **Cajun** is coming out of the closet? Somebody call the press! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/92 "2010-07-30T23:30:15Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Worst. Pit thread. Ever. Woo-hoo! I’m off the hook! Seriously, this thread is just dumbfounding. This is exactly the strategy of the Right… float out a lie, let those inclined to believe it do so, regardless of fact. Let it go down the memory hole then bring it up again years later, with a significant percentage of the population cottoning on to it. We’ll see Shirley Sherrod brought up as evidence of more ‘racism from the left’ in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/93 "2010-07-30T23:38:01Z")
How ironic. if NOLA is white, then this thread is making me hate white people. Fucking douchebags ---
**Author:** ![bullrun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@bullrun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bullrun)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/94 "2010-07-31T00:26:42Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > > [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > > > She told a long story about how when she first started helping poor farmers back in the 80’s she had a hard time working with whites because of the racism she and her family had personally experienced. However, after getting to know the white farmers she realized that her attitudes were wrong – that if you were poor and you needed help it didn’t matter what color your skin was. And so she worked just as hard to help the white farmers as the black ones – a fact that’s been testified to by the original white farmer she was reluctant to help. > > Not just casual racisms either, her father had been murdered by a white farmer and the grand jury, consisting of all whites, refused to indict (I think that’s the right word). Yeah…Yeah…Yeah…Poor Sherrod! Twit got the job because she was black and has made a good living at our expense…, probably even discriminating against whites when she wanted to. Perhaps the man did NOT kill her father. Perhaps her father “Needed Killing”. Perhaps the “killing” did not even happen and she did not know who her father was…(which is usually the case). Just because she did not discriminate against the farmer in question (we have only her word for it),doesn’t mean she hasn’t done so to others. ---
**Author:** ![bullrun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@bullrun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bullrun)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/95 "2010-07-31T00:29:50Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > How ironic. if NOLA is white, then this thread is making me hate white people. Fucking douchebags Awww …you hate white people???I guarrantee you …you’ll hate us even more in the future…HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/96 "2010-07-31T00:33:06Z")
Wow. You know, when I first responded to the poster above in his GD thread, I thought afterwards that maybe I’d gone a bit over the top. I really hate it when I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/97 "2010-07-31T00:33:10Z")
> [@bullrun](#): > > Yeah…Yeah…Yeah…Poor Sherrod! Twit got the job because she was black and has made a good living at our expense…, probably even discriminating against whites when she wanted to. > Perhaps the man did NOT kill her father. Perhaps her father “Needed Killing”. > Perhaps the “killing” did not even happen and she did not know who her father was…(which is usually the case). > Just because she did not discriminate against the farmer in question (we have only her word for it),doesn’t mean she hasn’t done so to others. Well just tattoo that swastika up on your forehead why don’t you? I’ve farted more cogent arguments than the crap above. ---
**Author:** ![abbeytxs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@abbeytxs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abbeytxs)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/98 "2010-07-31T00:45:58Z")
> [@bullrun](#): > > > [@RandMcnally](#): > > > > > [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > > > > > She told a long story about how when she first started helping poor farmers back in the 80’s she had a hard time working with whites because of the racism she and her family had personally experienced. However, after getting to know the white farmers she realized that her attitudes were wrong – that if you were poor and you needed help it didn’t matter what color your skin was. And so she worked just as hard to help the white farmers as the black ones – a fact that’s been testified to by the original white farmer she was reluctant to help. > > > > Not just casual racisms either, her father had been murdered by a white farmer and the grand jury, consisting of all whites, refused to indict (I think that’s the right word). > > Yeah…Yeah…Yeah…Poor Sherrod! Twit got the job because she was black and has made a good living at our expense…, probably even discriminating against whites when she wanted to. > Perhaps the man did NOT kill her father. Perhaps her father “Needed Killing”. > Perhaps the “killing” did not even happen and she did not know who her father was…(which is usually the case). > Just because she did not discriminate against the farmer in question (we have only her word for it),doesn’t mean she hasn’t done so to others. Well aren’t you just charming. ---
**Author:** ![bullrun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@bullrun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bullrun)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/99 "2010-07-31T00:52:11Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > > [@bullrun](#): > > > > Yeah…Yeah…Yeah…Poor Sherrod! Twit got the job because she was black and has made a good living at our expense…, probably even discriminating against whites when she wanted to. > > Perhaps the man did NOT kill her father. Perhaps her father “Needed Killing”. > > Perhaps the “killing” did not even happen and she did not know who her father was…(which is usually the case). > > Just because she did not discriminate against the farmer in question (we have only her word for it),doesn’t mean she hasn’t done so to others. > > Well just tattoo that swastika up on your forehead why don’t you? I’ve farted more cogent arguments than the crap above. stupid liberals…Everyone who does not tote their communist , bleeding heart, party line is a “NAZI”…or…their favorite…“raaaaaaacists” YOu have farted alright…I see the results of it on this thread. I guess as long as racism is aimed at the whtie majority…it;s alright with commielibs. The TRUE RACISTS! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513/100 "2010-07-31T00:56:12Z")
> [@bullrun](#): > > stupid liberals…Everyone who does not tote their communist , bleeding heart, party line is a “NAZI”…or…their favorite…“raaaaaaacists” YOu have farted alright…I see the results of it on this thread. I guess as long as racism is aimed at the whtie majority…it;s alright with commielibs. The TRUE RACISTS! We’re going to round up your kind at gunpoint and ship you off to camps where you will be taught to spell and punctuate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-you-shirley-sherrod/548513.md?page=6)