# FAA investigating United for letting Rockies coach into cockpit **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 20, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547 "2024-04-20T13:49:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/1 "2024-04-20T13:49:05Z")
Video has come out of one of the coaches for the Colorado Rockies sitting in the cockpit of a United charter flight taking the team to Toronto. FAA is investigating apparent breach of security regs for cockpits. > **[‘I’m gonna land the plane’: Toronto-bound flight carrying MLB team...](https://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/im-gonna-land-the-plane-toronto-bound-flight-carrying-mlb-team-investigated-by-faa-after/article_2c9a15b6-fe6f-11ee-a7a3-b715f89d2cb9.amp.html)** > > United Airlines says pilots on a flight to Toronto have been “withheld from service” after video surfaced of Colorado Rockies hitting coach Hensley Meulens sitting in the pilot’s seat and joking about landing the plane. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/2 "2024-04-20T14:03:07Z")
Already an active discussion in the aviation omnibus thread. > [@The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other/600499/5968): > > In baseball terms, I’d call this an unforced error for United. Doesn’t matter that it was a charter flight - I’m sure their GOM doesn’t permit a passenger sitting in a pilot seat. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/3 "2024-04-20T14:03:37Z")
I used to have a plan to write a book called something like “Crossroads” or “Turning Points.” The premise was that – for many of us – we can easily point to a specific time in our lives, and/or a specific decision or set of circumstances that Changed Everything. I’d like to have interviewed these pilots in a few years. Going out on a limb … I can guess what incident would turn out to have been so seminal in their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/4 "2024-04-20T14:05:21Z")
Ya know, sometimes you just want somebody to talk about gladiator movies with. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/5 "2024-04-20T14:21:43Z")
My eyes, skimming over the board headlines, contracted the header to “…investigating United for letting Roach into cockpit.” ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/6 "2024-04-20T14:37:55Z")
You _are_ Kareem. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/7 "2024-04-20T14:46:41Z")
Well, at least they didn’t let the Andes into the cockpit. That never ends well. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/8 "2024-04-20T15:38:25Z")
All I could think as I watched the video on the news was “Why would you video something like this??” After all, illegal and potentially career-ending?? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/9 "2024-04-20T15:42:06Z")
I have had that thought many, many times since the iPhone began to work its magic. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/10 "2024-04-20T15:53:47Z")
My former employer reminded us over and over that everybody has a camera, it’s always pointed at you / your workmanship, and no photo / video you yourself take will remain reliably private. And all of those things _will_ bite you in the ass. It seems they had a continuous low-level problem with pix appearing in public of shit that should not be happening, or pix that shouldn’t themselves have been taken even though what they pictured was ordinary and benign. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/11 "2024-04-21T01:20:04Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Well, at least they didn’t let the Andes into the cockpit. That never ends well. They’re coming out with a sequel to _Alive_ Second [helpings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOkpntQtBM&t=50s) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/12 "2024-04-21T01:51:56Z")
Letting them on the flight-deck to sit in the seat is stupid. Letting it be filmed is so stupid it makes you wonder if they just didn’t know the rules. Ignorant and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/13 "2024-04-21T11:08:13Z")
I’ve posted my thoughts above, but > [@Misread thread titles](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misread-thread-titles/796093/1159): > > This one keeps catching me out: [FAA investigating United for letting roach into cockpit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547) Hell, we had that problem now and again. After all, the galley is right behind the wall behind the FO. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-investigating-united-for-letting-rockies-coach-into-cockpit/1000547/14 "2024-04-21T11:11:37Z")
Or, the pilots were firing up a marijuana joint stub, like those Pinnacle Airlines 3701 dudebros seemed this close to doing.