# FAA issues nationwide ground stop due to "extraordinary circumstances" (for discussion, not breaking news)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 13, 2026, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989 "2026-11-13T21:41:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/41 "2026-11-14T00:51:19Z")

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For any Doper in an airport or who has friends / family out there…

Professionally speaking:

Even if FAA completely solves this problem by midnight local time Fri night (unlikely IMO), Sat & Sun will be an absolute shambles & Mon won’t be great.

Find a hotel to hole up until Tue, or rent a car and expect to sleep in it except in cities wo airline airports.

Gonna be bad. The knock-on effects of a 12-hour nationwide ground stop will take several days to overcome. If it gets to 24 or 48 … we’re in nearly unprecedented territory.

Damned glad I’m both home & retired.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/42 "2026-11-14T00:54:42Z")

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AI says planes can fly VFR in class G/E airspace during a ground stop. If true it is unlike 9/11.  
(So GA planes can fly)

Brian

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/43 "2026-11-14T01:04:24Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> if it’s just a transportation issue and nothing nefarious, why is the Secretary of Homeland Security holding the presser and not the Secretary of Transport?

Well, Dear Leader is spending his evening tweeting about movies, so I assume it’s every man for himself.

> **[I am working with Senator Tim Scott and, believe it or not, Senator Adam...](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117611584206041319)**
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> I am working with Senator Tim Scott and, believe it or not, Senator Adam Schiff, and, additionally, Senators John Cornyn, Raphael Warnock, Steve Daines, Bernie Moreno, Tim Sheehy, Alex Padilla, Mark Warner, Thom Tillis, Chris Coons, Katie Britt, and...

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/44 "2026-11-14T01:04:46Z")

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I wonder if Air Force One is also grounded tonight. It would be fabulous if Trump had to drive out of town for anything tonight. The Democrats could give him a golf clap.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/45 "2026-11-14T01:07:30Z")

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Not tonight. It’s already after 8pm eastern. Past his bedtime.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/46 "2026-11-14T01:11:12Z")

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My husband is flying home from Japan on Tuesday (Tokyo-Haneda to SFO). Any over/under on whether there will be delays, or if they will be back on schedule by then?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/47 "2026-11-14T01:14:58Z")

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Family and I are supposed to fly back home from Orlando tomorrow morning. I just hope we make it before Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/48 "2026-11-14T01:19:35Z")

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Just posted by Gavin Newsom: “Governor Gavin Newsom is honored to present Sean Duffy with the inaugural Super Intelligence (SI) Award for modernizing America’s aviation network. Under Sean’s visionary leadership, the FAA has eliminated late arrivals by eliminating departures.”

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HXC3VS3aYAAp_5h?format=webp&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HXC3VS3aYAAp_5h?format=webp&name=large)

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/49 "2026-11-14T01:22:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Well, Dear Leader is spending his evening tweeting about movies, so I assume it’s every man for himself.

Would you prefer him to be down in the trenches, taking charge, personally managing the crisis?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/50 "2026-11-14T01:23:05Z")

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Ugh. My daughter and wife are stuck in the Atlanta airport, about four hours away. I’m getting ready to hop in the car and go pick them up. Not how I planned to spend my Friday night, but then, not how they planned to spend it either.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/51 "2026-11-14T01:42:33Z")

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Oh, it’s _that_ bad, huh?

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3n2aed3i7tx2r)**
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> Markwayne Mullin: “This is what the leadership of President Trump looks like”

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/52 "2026-11-14T01:43:50Z")

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Sean Duffy is attacking Congress for not putting enough money into air traffic control. I didn’t really he’s a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/53 "2026-11-14T01:49:01Z")

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Markwayne Mullin just admitted that the new AI technology wasn’t compatible with the floppy disks. All they need now is a $50 billion (their number) contract with someone to build a whole new system.

Who would that someone be? How much will Trump charge for the contract?

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/54 "2026-11-14T01:49:14Z")

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I’m supposed to fly back east from Vegas tomorrow. I’ve been staying at the Mandalay Bay for a week, but just booked Circus Circus for 4 nights starting tomorrow just in case, as I really didn’t want to pay Mandalay Bay prices if I can leave earlier. Hopefully it will just be thrown away money, but I’m assuming at least a day delay.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/55 "2026-11-14T01:49:51Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> just booked Circus Circus

My condolences.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/56 "2026-11-14T02:02:15Z")

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@LSLGuy how does rebooking work? Because you have all the folks who booked for tomorrow with very few if any open seats.do they add flights?

Thanks,  
Brian

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/57 "2026-11-14T02:04:15Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Markwayne Mullin just admitted that the new AI technology wasn’t compatible with the floppy disks. All they need now is a $50 billion (their number) contract with someone to build a whole new system.

So the whole thing was likely a scam to pocket 50 billion.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/58 "2026-11-14T02:13:29Z")

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If you had AI running the whole system, how far a stretch would it be to have AI track every person’s movements, or even all the steps taken from the initial purchase of the ticket? Am I paranoid if someone is sneaking looks at me?

BTW, the new AI system is called the SMART system. I wish I were kidding.

[![](https://preview.redd.it/aged-like-dollar-store-milk-v0-e3242w3l4h1i1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=35261b97496e51e37c8073ff751dc383753947dc) ](https://preview.redd.it/aged-like-dollar-store-milk-v0-e3242w3l4h1i1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=35261b97496e51e37c8073ff751dc383753947dc)

Saves YOU time, cuts back DELAYS, and makes your flying experience better. 9/27/26

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2026, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/faa-issues-nationwide-ground-stop-due-to-extraordinary-circumstances-for-discussion-not-breaking-news/1034989/59 "2026-11-14T02:13:48Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> All right, now I’m getting nervous. Especially after that Microsoft outage yesterday.
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> I think I still have post-911 jitters.

Who doesn’t?

I just got up from a post-vaccination nap to this. Yikes.

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