FAA issues nationwide ground stop due to "extraordinary circumstances" (for discussion, not breaking news)

This is only the second time since 9-11 that this has happened, and the explanation of “extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety” does not instill me with confidence that this is not something really, really bad.

That said, I want to stay away from a lot of places online with conspiracy theorists going insane. Maybe this thread can be a repository for actual factual information about this.

We can merge this in with the other two threads that have already been merged together (mine being one of them)

We already have two such threads. This is the seniormost thread:

ETA: ninjaed by @Joey_P

Some of the articles I read are saying, according to the FAA, it’s a communications issue.

Moderating:

It’s ok for us to have 2 threads covering the same event. Breaking News threads in MPSIMS should be reserved for actual developments in the situation. Other discussion can take place here.

“until further notice” bothers me.

I hope they get it figured out.

msnow has the flight map for the us up. the skies are getting empty.

air route control centers are being mentioned as the reason. it is a very old system.

Did anyone else notice that this happened on Friday the 13th?

The notification lists “Event Time” as from 2053Z to 0400Z.

NBC has said that it’s an enroute problem. They suggested it was for the high altitude ARTCCs are not able to communicate with the planes, but local towers are able to communicate.

They showed BWI in Baltimore and almost all of the gates are full. Would not be fun to have to sit and not be able to get off the plane.

Looking at Flightaware - it appears that incoming flights are landing at their intended destinations.

That’s what the press conference with the Head of Homeland Security just said, planes can land at their scheduled destination, they just can’t take off. It’s not like 9/11 where they all had to land anywhere. Well, until those destinations reach capacity and then incoming flights will have to go somewhere else.

If it had happened in Spain the ominous date would have been Tuesday the 13th, not Friday. By which I mean to say that numerology is irrelevant for this event. For any event, actually.

Should make for some interesting taxiway gridlock.

“No te cases ni te embarques” (Do not marry nor start a sea voyage) on a Tuesday the 13th is the usual adage, if translate “embarque” as “embarking” it could count as “getting on an airplane” and be eerely prescient.

Maybe connected, maybe not, but the National Weather Service is reporting widespread outages as well.

All right, now I’m getting nervous. Especially after that Microsoft outage yesterday.

I think I still have post-911 jitters.

There was a report that a flight to Europe out of Boston was allowed to leave. The aviation expert they had on suggested that was because going to Europe they don’t get in to the High ARTCC system.

To be precise: the ominous day in Spain is Tuesday the 13th. The adage is en martes, ni te cases ni te embarques, no mention of the 13th. Martes (tuesday) is the day of Mars, the god of war and bad things. Friday is the day of Venus (viernes). Can be bad too, but for different reasons - for a wide definition of reason. And the boarding gate in an airport is called puerta de embarque, so yes, embarking covers boarding a plane.
Still bullshit. Irrelevant to whatever is happening. Which is probably not good at all.

At least in some parts of Buenos Aires the “no te cases” adage has acquired the “13th” part too, cite: I heard it that way.

Oh for sure, I hope nobody seriously thinks the date has anything to do with it.