# Face book can take a long walk on a short pier

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345 "2024-09-16T15:08:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/21 "2024-09-17T13:18:56Z")

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Well, I was asked, but I closed the popup and was never bothered again by that. (Unless you’re accessing a page I wasn’t.)

FB will always ask you to login, even if you don’t have an account, but IME most content is available anonymously if you close the login prompt.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/22 "2024-09-17T13:48:02Z")

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Weird. Not working for me. I’ll close the login pop up and I get ‘Not Logged In, Please log in to see this page’

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/23 "2024-09-17T14:59:33Z")

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Well, maybe the page you’re looking for does require login. If so, I apologize that my advice doesn’t work out.

I definitely saw lots of pictures of happy critters in the various settings and facilities there, but I was just browsing around.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/24 "2024-09-17T15:36:35Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> But dammit, they are in the communication business - COMMUNICATE!

I totally get being annoyed at them and their incompetence. But you are a non-paying user of a site that relies on ads, and you hardly ever use the site. How much time and effort are they obligated to spend to fix this error?

You can stand on principle, but they’re gonna stand on understaffed departments that help drive up their profits by driving down labor costs. Or you can start a new account and look at the dogs. Once you’re done being irritated, the same choices will be there.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/25 "2024-09-17T15:38:05Z")

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My 2¢

My account got hijacked a while back, but what was different from this situation was that within minutes my email, password, and phone number were all changed. It took several hours to undo with all the hoops I had to go thru, but I finally made it as I had one device that I had previously used to access my account that was unaffected by the hijacking.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/26 "2024-09-17T15:51:08Z")

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Does the kennel also have an Instagram account? Could you switch to looking at your dogs there, instead of on Facebook?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/27 "2024-09-17T16:47:47Z")

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If you must use Facebook, open a new account using a new email address. That’s the fix if your account is hacked or deleted.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/28 "2024-09-17T19:18:42Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> Does the kennel also have an Instagram account? Could you switch to looking at your dogs there, instead of on Facebook?

Nah. We asked. For whatever reason (they said slow internet 🙄 they have to use facebook)

I guess I should consider myself lucky. Nothing was changed. I’ll either have my wife make an account, or invent something.

Thanks everyone. Mostly I wanted to vent. I really just wanted some information from them on what the hell happened.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/29 "2024-09-17T19:20:15Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I’ll either have my wife make an account, or invent something.

Why not just set up your own? It seems like you’re going out of your way to make this all more complicated than it needs to be.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/30 "2024-09-17T19:29:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> **I am NOT Jeffery.** There is no Jeffery associated with the account. I do not know anyone named Jeffery.

> [@enipla](#):
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> … it’s ME not Jeffery.

> [@enipla](#):
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> …they think I’m someone named Jeffery.  
> They addressed me as Jeffery.
> 
> I’M. NOT. JEFFERY.

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Ehhh, gotta say, that’s exactly what I’d expect Jeffery to say…

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/31 "2024-09-17T19:31:03Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Why not just set up your own? It seems like you’re going out of your way to make this all more complicated than it needs to be.

Well, yeah, I just need to get another email addy.

This is mostly about principle. An automated email giving the basics of what happened would have satisfied me. A notice saying your account has been closed and you cannot appeal this when you try to login addressed to someone else is not helpful. It does hint that it was hi-jacked because of the different name.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/32 "2024-09-18T01:50:20Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > [@enipla](#):
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> > But dammit, they are in the communication business - COMMUNICATE! ⁢
> 
> I totally get being annoyed at them and their incompetence. But you are a non-paying user of a site that relies on ads, and you hardly ever use the site. How much time and effort are they obligated to spend to fix this error?

However much it costs to fix it, seeing as it was their error. It’s a $100 billion+ company. They aren’t hurting for resources to fix their errors.

They asked for proof. The OP provided it. If their system doesn’t handle that proof correctly, that system is broken, and will continue to be broken for others.

You can ask how much of the OP’s time it’s worth to try and fix someone else’s mistake, given how little if affects them. But when it comes to Facebook’s responsibility to fix it?

The answer is 100%. It was their mistake.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/33 "2024-09-18T01:56:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But when it comes to Facebook’s responsibility to fix it?
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> The answer is 100%. It was their mistake.

Coolcoolcool! All I have left to say is the second paragraph of the post whose first paragraph you quoted:

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You can stand on principle, but they’re gonna stand on understaffed departments that help drive up their profits by driving down labor costs. Or you can start a new account and look at the dogs. Once you’re done being irritated, the same choices will be there.

Well, I guess I have a little more to say: when we’re in the trash fire of a fucking dystopia that we’re in, I recommend picking and choosing the principled stands worth taking.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/34 "2024-09-18T02:03:32Z")

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Here’s what you do.

Get a kennel with another social media platform.

If that fails, or doesn’t work. Volunteer to set up Instagram on their computer. 6yo kids can do it. Shouldn’t be hard.

If that fails, cancel all vacays the dogs can’t go on.

Really the principal of the matter doesn’t matter in this crazy world. No one gives a shit. Especially online sites, social media and possibly not your garbage man.

You’ll have to start from scratch. A do-over. Rinse and repeat. Take a loss for the team. It’s just pixels on a screen. After all

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/35 "2024-09-18T02:31:23Z")

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Instagram and Facebook are both owned by Meta. You can use the login of one on the other. If you have an Instagram account, you can use that to login to Facebook. If you’re going to create an Instagram account, you may as well create another Facebook account, and if your email is banned from Facebook, it might also be banned on Instagram.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/36 "2024-09-18T02:54:58Z")

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Oh crap.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/37 "2024-09-18T03:03:24Z")

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So, the product wants rights and explanations?  
Interesting.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/38 "2024-09-18T06:44:26Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> > [@enipla](#):
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> > **I am NOT Jeffery.** There is no Jeffery associated with the account. I do not know anyone named Jeffery.
> 
> > [@enipla](#):
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> > … it’s ME not Jeffery.
> 
> > [@enipla](#):
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> > …they think I’m someone named Jeffery.  
> > They addressed me as Jeffery.
> > 
> > I’M. NOT. JEFFERY.
> 
> .
> 
> Ehhh, gotta say, that’s exactly what I’d expect Jeffery to say…

I get that, but what would you expect someone who’s NOT Jeffery to say?

Additionally, who would you expect to say they ARE Jeffery?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/39 "2024-09-18T06:58:44Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Well, yeah, I just need to get another email addy.

That’d probably take less time than it did to initiate, and respond to, this thread.

> [@enipla](#):
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> I’M. NOT. JEFFERY.

Oh, please put this into your profile line or whatever it is that shows up under your username now.

It would clear up so much confusion!

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Additionally, who would you expect to say they ARE Jeffery?

My first boyfriend, for starters, since that was his name.  
… still is, I suppose.

As with most “firsts,” though, the guy turned out to be a real asshole.

Hey, maybe he works at Facebook!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/face-book-can-take-a-long-walk-on-a-short-pier/1007345/40 "2024-09-18T12:36:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Get a kennel with another social media platform.

Not gonna happen. This the ONLY ‘kennel’ I will take my dogs to. It’s a great place.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> If that fails, or doesn’t work. Volunteer to set up Instagram on their computer. 6yo kids can do it. Shouldn’t be hard.

They are 100 miles away from me which complicates things a bit. They aren’t and shouldn’t allow a volunteer to dick around on their computer system. And I have zero idea what Instagram is. Sort of like my knowledge of fb. The only reason I had a fb account in the first place was to see what all the fuss was about. It’s mostly a lot about nothing.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> If that fails, cancel all vacays the dogs can’t go on.

Cancel a 25k month long vaca to Europe that has been paid for. Don’t think so.

Create a new gmail account specificaly so I can see my dogs ‘side’ of the vacation and set up a new fb account? 👍

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