Face Off Season 6 thread

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I am absolutely disgusted by the judge’s decision to send Daniel home. Yes, he totally missed the point of the competition and yes he made some bad decisions. He deserved to be in the bottom.

If you’re going to send him home for missing the point, then you have to send Chloe (in case I have the name wrong: the fake red-head seahorse girl) because her “dragon” was a seahorse AND it wasn’t complete. The multi-eyed slime beast also looked nothing like a dragon (though it was at least executed well-enough to deserve being safe). Singling him out for missing the point is wrong.

You can’t send him home for sculpting because he beat the pants off several contenders in that department. He certainly had the other two bottom looks beat.

Daniel’s color choices were not good, but they were at least applied well. The other two bottom looks were not good choices and they were not done well. Nico painted his dragon like I’d paint a barn - flat red with white highlights. The kimono was the worst part of Daniel’s entire costume… but if a contestant ever deserves a pass for lapse in judgment it should be in an early challenge when several other people have made substantial mistakes.

As for the winning looks…

I can see why the vulture design won, but I can’t see it as a dragon. It’s a wicked witch/vulture of the icelands. A very well done wicked witch. But when Daniel was sent home for having a non-dragon, how is it that another non-dragon can take top looks? It’s just more fuel for why I’m so upset with the judges.

Rashaad seems like he knows his stuff. I wasn’t quite as impressed with the costume as the judges were, but it was definitely better than most of what was up there.

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None of them IMO looked like a dragon to be honest, not a single one would I look at it and say “Hey, that’s a dragon!” I think the vulture one was the closest, but like I said above I would have loved to see someone incorporate the arms into the wings.

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I agree with this. The fabricated scales were hard to read as body and felt more like armor. But the wings on back helped.

She was so embarrassed and afraid when Glenn pulled the hood back to reveal all the work on back, but I think that actually helped her. They were able to see the quality of her sculpt and the effort she put in to making the piece, and realized she had some problems with the mold failure. So she got safe mostly because what she did in the face and head was decent work and she was stuck with a lemon on torn appliances and such. Basically, there were enough people who had design and technique problems that her issues were safe for now. She won’t win if that keeps up, but the hope is that’s a one off and things go better for her.

He seems to do good work, lots of skills and techniques, and works fast.

Right away I figured the winner. Tyler’s was the first revealed, and it was stellar work that would stand up in late episodes on previous seasons. It was a cohesive character that had a solid story and all the design elements tied together, and it was creative. None of the others popped like his did. Well-deserved win.

I was less thrilled with George and his “Chinese” dragon. I didn’t like the red - it seemed too strong with the bronze. Yes, the shapes and sculpt were interesting, but the color scheme didn’t seem fire dragon to me, more fire demon.

The eliminated player was a harder call. I could see arguments for all three of the bottom looks going home. I could have argued Chloe, but I think they made the right call there. I was thinking it would be Niko. His body sculpt didn’t work and he went for chest paint, but that made it much more human hybrid and that was less tied to the concept, and the paint job just really sucked. The sculpt was also weird, some of the contours read at first like edge lines until I studied them.

But when Glenn said he didn’t think Daniel’s conveyed elements of dragon, then I thought he would likely be the one. Missing the concept is a big no-no. Tess had a lot of problems, from time management, poor application, bad layering with the feathers, and bad paint. I still think she had some abilities that showed better than Niko, but she’s going to have to work hard to remain around long.

Daniel’s work didn’t seem that bad to me. Yes, the kimono outfit thing didn’t work, it was simultaneously garish and conflicting with the paint scheme, plus it didn’t feel like it fit the story of the lady dragon being chased off and hiding in a cave waiting for her husband to return. And I was kinda put off by the dragon boobs. Yes, women have boobs, but boobs are a mammalian feature that shouldn’t really be on a lizard. There was an oddity to me in the joint line between the small green chest scales and the large yellow belly - it was a horrible transition. I didn’t have problems with the small scale texture, just the blending. But Glenn’s observation was he didn’t include enough “dragon” elements, with teeth, wings, horns, etc, so the head didn’t read dragon, but alien. While I’m not sure I agree, I do see his point, and if they didn’t feel the result was really a dragon, then I guess I see why they sent him packing for missing the challenge. But I’d have picked keeping him over Niko.

But the one that really jumped out at me that they didn’t say anything about was Graham and his slime dragon. The face was horrendously bad - cartoon bad. Really, what was up with that face? It was dreadful, and deserved at least a mention by the judges in their closeup reviews.

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The biggest problem making any of them read as dragons is their being tied to the human form. To make a good dragon, you need a long body that you can’t get on a single person without that person crawling on the ground. So that is an obvious hindrance to the challenge as stated for all the contestants.

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My read is that, given that this was a single person challenge, even though the theme was “dragon,” everyone including the judges was understanding this as “dragon-ish, on a human form” because there just wasn’t TIME to make crazy fabrications for more of a dragon body. Roy from last season could have done it, but I think few other contestants … even the best from previous seasons, could have done it well.

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Just watched this week’s ep – how in the holy fuck is Chloe still on this show? How was she not even considered one of the bottom looks??

That laughably unfinished non-dragon slab of crap was far and away the worst makeup to ever survive elimination, and elimination wasn’t even on the table for it. Unbelieveable.

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I didn’t like Darrin’s bubble head guitar creature. It looked like a white Opal in a jewelry mount. It was attractive like any jewel would be. But, I just don’t see a face there. It looks like a helmet some creature is wearing. The judges seemed confused by it too and then suddenly decided they loved it.

Tess was so in over her head. All her confidence was shattered and she was just going through the motions in this episode. I can’t recall another contestant melting down this badly.

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I don’t see Darrin’s Opal as a makeup job. They made an attractive helmet prop and plopped it on the model’s head.

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I recall a meltdown/panic attack last season, but it happened later on.

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As someone who suffers from panic attacks, they did Tess a favor by sending her home.

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I disagree with the judges this time on their winner. Darrin’s looked like total ass - it was weird, it didn’t make sense, the integration of the guitar was not obvious, and the execution had two obvious problems: the breathing holes were obvious and they made no effort at all to hide them, so they were just two punctures in the front; and the eyes were visible behind the plastic shield. Come on! At least use sculpt or paint to hide the nostril holes.

Darrin was all excited to break out his idea of a sculpt with the face in the neck area, but it just didn’t make sense here. Add to it the lack of guitar elements. I didn’t see how the vines matched their guitar, their clear bits weren’t really clear. It just was not a good fit. But somehow that means Glenn liked their non-obvious integration of the elements. :rolleyes:

Even the other top looks was off to me. While the sculpt form was okay and the color scheme and pattern was right, the first obvious thing was the red in the cracks was too subtle, it didn’t pop out the way the red in the guitar did. But even more, the sculpt just looked rough.

As far as the elimination, pretty much when the horns tore off at the slightest motion I knew it would be Tess going home. Plus, the humorous concept is always a risk with Glenn - he hates that. Also, that one the texture in the chest was terrible. Tess having a nervous breakdown also didn’t spell success for her.

I do agree with the call out on the red rocker V head being too big and too overdone with the angles.

In short, none of these was really great. In fact, I liked Niko and Cat’s best. The paint job wasn’t great, but the sculpt was great. The guitar in the back wasn’t obvious at first, but when they had him turn around and saw it then it worked.

The hippy paisley also sucked. I didn’t get the paisley texture on the arms. WTF? Just weird.

As far as this season goes, I’m less than impressed.

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I agree on Darrin’s win… I think the judges were always confused by it, but they decided to reward the one team that thought outside the box.

In fact, that seems to be a trend in this season. They seem to be putting concept higher in their judging criteria than execution… and their criteria for judging concept seems incredibly arbitrary.

As far as other contestants melting down - yeah, we’ve seen worse. Wasn’t it last season that one girl just left during the night with nothing but a note? The next day, neither of the female contenders seemed to be able to get their act together and the judges kind of grudgingly allowed everyone to move on to the next round, but you could tell they weren’t happy about it.

There was also the one guy who left after last looks, but before judging could start. Of course, he thought was pure awesome right until he left, so that was a different kind of meltdown.

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Fairly typical Face Off competition. They give a challenge, everyone thinks “demon” and goes off to cast cowls. I rather disagree with the winner, simply because I couldn’t understand the concept. Maybe it looked better on-stage. Second place looked well executed but too busy. And * none * of the guitars looked playable, even from an air guitar standpoint. I’m hearkening back to the TIm Burton challenge where one contestant did a Cello-hybrid creature who could play herself. That was better than anything we saw last night. But a vertical instrument probably lends itself better to that conceit than a guitar.

Also, Tess?   Predictable, but why, oh why did they waste so much air-time on her?   I don't watch Face Off to see people melt down and have panic attacks.    I want to see really talented people making cool stuff.   They barely show any fabrication as it is, so why are we spending five or ten minutes of air time watching some poor girl slip outside for a bit of a weep?

So far, I’m thinking Rashaad for this year’s winner. He’s consistently in top looks and actually seems to have some conceptual and time management skills.

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I thought they were all pretty poor, to be honest. But McKenzie was looking very good last night.

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Not really wild about any of the designs this week.

I didn’t agree with the winner – okay, I actually do see what Glen is talking about with the vines seeming like the wood grain of the guitar (one thing that bothered me was that it was difficult to see the guitars very well, so I couldn’t judge for myself if the designs matched), and there must have been some blue elements in the guitar because the judges noted the blue tone in the design worked well … but, I could not stop seeing the real model’s face under the bubble, so having the fabricated face in the neck area made no visual sense at all to me.

I didn’t think it was awful, but I didn’t think it was the clear winner, either.

Sending Tess home was clearly the right decision. Those horns looked like when I do crafts with my three-year old, and we make things out of paper towel tubes. And in past episodes, I haven’t been too impressed with Matt – he’s been in the bottom three of four times so far, and I’ve sort of been viewing him as the Eddie of Season 6, as he always seems to vaguely miss the point. BUT, I will note I liked his attitude when things weren’t going well, and Tess was scattered all over the place; I felt like he was really trying to be calm and focused on what needed to happen to move forward.

I agree the red mohawk design was just too … red. It was too basic, like they didn’t even bother trying.

I thought both of the designs that were safe seemed pretty good.

As always, I wished we could see more of the foundation challenge. Some of them that only appeared in the background looked very interesting!

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I like Rashaad, too. In addition to the above, he always seems to be having a good time. I was wryly disappointed because he and Tyler didn’t get much screen time last night – probably because what it would have showed was two people, being competent and getting things done in an amiable way.

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This show needs longer breaks between seasons so we can kind of recharge and begin to care again. As it is I’m hardly paying attention at all. That said, at least characters-merged-with-guitars is a truly different and interesting challenge.

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I was hoping for some really interesting stuff, but all we got was more demons. We need a challenge where they make FUNNY rather than just demonic. Not all aliens need to look like demons, STAR WARS did quite well with ewoks.

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Someone would have to tickle Glenn or something.

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Yeah, when Tess first used the phrase “Rockabilly Goat”, all I could think was “Yes, great idea – because if there’s one thing Glenn clearly loves, it’s make-up jobs based on puns”.