# Facebook Satellite Insurance Cost?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 1, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732 "2016-09-01T23:17:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/1 "2016-09-01T23:17:10Z")

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I assume Zuckerburg had the Facebook satellite that exploded insured.

How much did he probably have to spend to get a policy from Lloyd’s of London (or whatever insurance company)?

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/2 "2016-09-02T00:15:31Z")

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I suspect that Lloyds (along with every other insurer) would be reluctant to offer insurance without some reasonable idea of the chance of a loss. And I doubt there’s anything like enough information on Space X launch reliability to accurately estimate that.

Which implies either that there was no insurance, or the cost was really high (probably enough to make self-insuring attractive).

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/3 "2016-09-02T00:26:56Z")

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No, commercial satellites are routinely insured against loss. I just don’t know how much the policy costs.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/4 "2016-09-02T02:45:53Z")

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While there is insurance available, it may not have covered this situation. The satellite is usually insured separately for transportation to the launch area. Then a different policy would cover from launch to operational condition in orbit. This incident was after delivery and during a full-up test; not a launch. It’ll be interesting to see how this shakes out. Lawyers for sure.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/5 "2016-09-02T02:55:03Z")

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> **[Satellite insurance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_insurance)**
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> Satellite insurance is a specialized branch of aviation insurance in which, as of 2000, about 20 insurers worldwide participate directly. Others participate through reinsurance contracts with direct providers. It covers three risks: relaunching the satellite if the launch operation fails; replacing the satellite if it is destroyed, positioned in an improper orbit, or fails in orbit; and liability for damage to third parties caused by the satellite or the launch vehicle.
> In 1965 the first satelli...

To late to edit. Apparently pre-launch insurance covers from manufacturing transport, through testing, up to actual launch ignition.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/6 "2016-09-02T04:21:39Z")

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Hmmmm. I wonder what the deductible might be?

😃

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/7 "2016-09-02T11:46:24Z")

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The [Amos-6 satellite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos-6) was owned by [Spacecom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecom), an Israeli communications satellite operator. It’s only a “Facebook satellite” in that Facebook was one of 7 partners in the [internet.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet.org) venture, which had an agreement to lease bandwidth on the satellite.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/8 "2016-09-02T15:28:26Z")

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A member of my family actually works in satellite insurance. Next time I see her I’ll ask how much it would have cost.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-satellite-insurance-cost/764732/9 "2016-09-02T18:27:40Z")

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[When a Commercial Rocket Blows Up, Who Pays?](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-02/when-a-commercial-rocket-blows-up-who-pays)

Article on satellite insurance, with specifics on this one.
