# Facebook, you suck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545 "2018-11-15T04:31:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/21 "2018-12-19T21:27:37Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Facebook’s latest privacy scandal: The private photos of millions of users were accidentally shared with 1,500 apps.](https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-bug-exposed-millions-private-photos-to-third-party-apps-2018-12) > > ’ “We’re sorry this happened,” Facebook said in a statement. ’ Fixed… ’ “We’re sorry this\* [that you found out]\* happened,” Facebook said in a statement. ’ ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/22 "2018-12-19T22:04:22Z")
Wow! Facebook really does suck! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/23 "2018-12-19T23:51:47Z")
People trust big tech? Lol. Wait til the tentacles are firmly in place. There will be no privacy. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/24 "2018-12-20T02:02:42Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > [Facebook said in a blog post Wednesday it allowed other big tech companies to read users’ private messages, but denies it did so without consent.](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/19/facebook-gave-amazon-microsoft-netflix-special-access-to-data-nyt.html) > > Several giant tech companies had/have access to Facebook users’ private messages. > > All the consent that was required was to sign in with your Facebook account to give several giant tech companies access to your private messages. > > The giant tech companies include Amazon, Microsoft, Netflix and Spotify. Facebook played fast and loose with their privacy policy in order to do this. No one at all should ever believe that anything put on Facebook is private. In fact, under the guise of “convenience” Facebook often takes other information from your computer. Theoretically, users have agreed to this, but in reality there’s a LOT of fine print. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/25 "2018-12-20T02:13:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Wait til the tentacles are firmly in place. Nice post/Username combo. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/26 "2018-12-20T03:07:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > People trust big tech? Lol. Wait til the tentacles are firmly in place. There will be no privacy. I use all these big tech services, but I always tell myself and everyone else to assume everything you post or write is public and to go from there when deciding what to post or PM. It’s kinda naive to think otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/27 "2018-12-20T12:52:57Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I use all these big tech services, but I always tell myself and everyone else to assume everything you post or write is public and to go from there when deciding what to post or PM. It’s kinda naive to think otherwise. Maybe, but people can still be confused about where those boundaries of privacy lie. What exactly have we agreed to when we use Facebook? Have we agreed to allow tracking cookies while we’re logged in? Probably, yes. Have we agreed to let Facebook read our messages and collect information about our usage habits? Sure. Have we agreed to allow third parties collect information about us when we’re not even thinking about logging into Facebook? Probably not. If Facebook would just tell us what we’re agreeing to with some transparency, there probably wouldn’t be a problem. The problem is, they’ve never been transparent, nor have they ever intended to be. They’ve wanted to be the gold mine of data collection, which is what they baked into their pitch to investors. It’s hard for them to turn back now. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/28 "2018-12-20T15:01:22Z")
I have been telling people for several years that Facebook’s terms and conditions allow the company to do whatever they want with your computer. I’ve told them that it’s in black and white that if you use Facebook’s app, Facebook can turn on your phone’s microphone and camera without your knowledge at any time. Every single person I’ve told this too has dismissed me as a Cassandra. Facebook is selling you and your entire life to the highest bidder, whether it’s a company or the Kremlin. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/29 "2018-12-20T15:08:10Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > I have been telling people for several years that Facebook’s terms and conditions allow the company to do whatever they want with your computer. > I’ve told them that it’s in black and white that if you use Facebook’s app, Facebook can turn on your phone’s microphone and camera without your knowledge at any time. > > Every single person I’ve told this too has dismissed me as a Cassandra. > > Facebook is selling you and your entire life to the highest bidder, whether it’s a company or the Kremlin. It’s good that you’ve told them that, but that doesn’t absolve Facebook and other tech companies of the responsibility of telling users. Leaving your door unlocked isn’t a good idea, but that doesn’t mean you’re giving your neighbor permission to burglarize your home. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/30 "2018-12-20T15:25:24Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > I’ve told them that it’s in black and white that if you use Facebook’s app, Facebook can turn on your phone’s microphone and camera without your knowledge at any time. And they do enable your camera. I didn’t have a Facebook account in the past. I have my cameras disabled on my computer. Recently, I registered a Facebook account. Since that day, there is a message on my computer that my cameras are disabled that has never appeared before. Luckily, Facebook blocked my account after 2 days. I deleted my account. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/31 "2018-12-20T17:35:08Z")
Zuckerberg was quoted as calling people who trust the website’s security as “Stupid fucks”. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/32 "2018-12-21T10:31:25Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Zuck equating FB dislike with anti-semitism is really really stupid and offends my intelligence. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Because the making of George Soros the bugaboo of the right wing is all about anti-Semitism. So… Jewish civil war? The first one since Jeroboam vs. Rehoboam? Or Maccabees vs. Hellenizers? Or Lepke vs. Schultz? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/33 "2018-12-21T22:27:03Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Zuckerberg was quoted as calling people who trust the website’s security as “Stupid fucks”. That is an absolute lie. :mad: The term he used was “dumb fucks”. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545/34 "2019-01-19T12:20:15Z")
[Facebook helps kids unknowingly waste $100’s of their parents’ money.](https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/documents-facebook-gaming-lawsuit-1203111867/) Here’s an exchange between two Facebook employees unsealed by a court. The age of consent is apparently 13 — Is this Facebook or law? — so this young kid addicted to “Ninja Saga” (or “Angry Birds” or whatever) was not entitled to a refund. Parents typically fill out an on-line credit slip for $20 but continue to get charged without the parent’s consent (and often without full awareness of the charge by the teen or pre-teen playing the game). > [@](#): > > Gillian: Would you refund this whale ticket? User is disputing ALL charges… > > Michael: What’s the users total lifetime spend? > > Gillian: It’s $6,545 – but card was just added on Sept. 2. They are disputing all of it I believe. That user looks underage as well. Well, maybe not under 13. > > Michael: Is the user writing in a parent, or is this user a 13ish year old > > Gillian: It’s a 13ish yr old. says its 15. looks a bit younger. she\* not its. Lol. > > Michael: … I wouldn’t refund > > Gillian: Oh that’s fine. cool. agreed. just double checking [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/facebook-you-suck/824545.md?page=1)