# Fact: SSM is out, SS Civil Unions are in.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 9, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-ssm-is-out-ss-civil-unions-are-in/688034 "2014-05-09T06:19:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-ssm-is-out-ss-civil-unions-are-in/688034/217 "2014-05-13T14:00:46Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> My proposal avoids that danger. But it does require both sides to accept reality. Proponents of a traditional definition of marriage have to accept that recognizing an identical institution for same-sex couples does not disparage them. Proponents of same-sex unions have to accept that calling it "civil union’ does not disparage them either.

Well, then, you’ll have no objection whatsoever to the proposal advanced on the “Is The Gay Marriage Debate Over?” thread.\*

> [@Is The Gay Marriage Debate Over?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-gay-marriage-debate-over/687472/810):
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> Excellent. And since these are, in your own words, _exactly_ equal, you won’t mind switching the names. Same Sex couples get to have a “marriage”, Opposite Sex couples couples get to have a “civil union.” They’re exactly the same, so nobody should mind this, right?

\*Period, not question mark. This is not a query; it is a statement of an obvious and inescapable corollary to your on-the-record position.

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