# Fact: Titanic is the Best Movie Ever Made or Ever Will Be Made. Discuss.
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**Created:** [August 6, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461 "2013-08-06T01:46:32Z")
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/1 "2013-08-06T01:46:32Z")
It has been 16 years now and I have seen Titanic possibly over 1,000 times although I lost count at about the 300 mark. This movie is still incredible. You have a compelling character driven drama superimposed on real life events and that is hard to pull off. The number of movies that have the same repeat watch-ability are in the single digits but Titanic does it the best of all.
Screw Citizen Kane. It was experimental movie covering period tripe and few people want to see it more than once. We are left with Gone With The Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Star Wars and maybe Casablanca in the same category but none of those had the benefit of extreme Hollywood budgets that have gone off the rails since Titanic was made.
No movies made today, especially the superhero epilepsy fests can ever hope to match that record. The only movie ever to beat it at the box office was Avatar done by the same director and that one is a pale comparison for repeat watchability and character depth.
If you don’t agree, make a compelling case for your own choice but I am standing by this one.
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### Author:  [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/2 "2013-08-06T01:50:41Z")
Dude, Poe’s Law. For a minute I thought you were serious.
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### Author:  [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/3 "2013-08-06T01:57:25Z")
_Titanic_ gets a lot of hate, but I saw it and I thought it was awesome on multiple levels. Not one of my Top 10 movies of all time; probably not even in my Top 100, but IMHO not worth the hate it generates.
_ETA_: Yes, I get that the OP is making a joke.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/4 "2013-08-06T01:58:04Z")
> [@Skammer](#):
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> Dude, Poe’s Law. For a minute I thought you were serious.
I am 100% serious. If just saw that Netflix has Titanic streaming On Demand so I can just click on it rather than being forced to switch out one of my Titanic DVD’s into a player like a poor person. I have it playing in the background now and that always makes me happy.
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### Author:  [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/5 "2013-08-06T01:59:40Z")
You really watch that movie every 5 days? Seriously?
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/6 "2013-08-06T02:00:22Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> _ETA_: Yes, I get that the OP is making a joke.
Believe it or not, I joke around a lot so much that it is hard for people to tell the difference sometimes but I am dead serious on this one.
Pick your own #1 and make a compelling case for it if you think otherwise. My #2 slot goes to Gone With The Wind followed the Wizard of Oz and then Casablanca.
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/7 "2013-08-06T02:04:19Z")
In no universe is _Titanic_ even in the top 50. I’m too distracted by the Dodger game right now to defend my choice for best, but _Titanic_ isn’t it.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/8 "2013-08-06T02:06:13Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> You really watch that movie every 5 days? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. It is more often during some times and less during others but that is a good average over time. I don’t watch current TV. I only surf the web and rewatch movies that I like. I have it on right now and it is always a pleaser.
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### Author:  [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/9 "2013-08-06T02:06:31Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Pick your own #1 and make a compelling case for it if you think otherwise. My #2 slot goes to Gone With The Wind followed the Wizard of Oz and then Casablanca.
No Shawshank Redemption?
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### Author:  [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/10 "2013-08-06T02:10:31Z")
My favorite movie is “Murder by Death,” which I have seen around fifty times.
In my opinion, the best movie ever made is “2001: A Space Odyssey.”
There is no way in fuck I would ever present these opinions as objective, or absolute, or factual. It’s a matter of taste, and only fools make firm declarations about one personal preference being better than another.
“Casablanca” is a very good movie.
“Titanic” has some good things in its favor, but also some flaws and shortcomings.
“Alien” is possibly the best movie I’ve never seen.
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/11 "2013-08-06T02:14:53Z")
> [@Trinopus](#):
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> My favorite movie is “Murder by Death,” which I have seen around fifty times.
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> In my opinion, the best movie ever made is “2001: A Space Odyssey.”
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> There is no way in fuck I would ever present these opinions as objective, or absolute, or factual. It’s a matter of taste, and only fools make firm declarations about one personal preference being better than another.
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> “Casablanca” is a very good movie.
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> “Titanic” has some good things in its favor, but also some flaws and shortcomings.
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> “Alien” is possibly the best movie I’ve never seen.
Fair enough. The problem with presenting anything as the ‘Best Ever’ is that people immediately compare it to the entire universe of competition as a whole and decalring it can’t possibly be #1 because it has some flaws and something out there has done some of it better. All of them do. I am asking people to present their own choices and go head-to-head on an individual works basis with Titanic.
Shawshank Redemption is a great movie in general but suffers a lot from implausibility for the escape process has too many old-school fairy-tale overtones. Titanic doesn’t have any of that. The bitch wins at the end and still screws everyone over even in old age.
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### Author:  [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/12 "2013-08-06T02:17:38Z")
Murder By Death is a great movie. I’ve probably seen it twenty or so times myself. But for best movie ever made - acting, script, production values, etc. - I’m gonna go with L.A. Confidential.
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### Author:  [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/13 "2013-08-06T02:20:28Z")
My favorite’s _Fantasia_ which I may have seen 50 times or so.
I’d give the edge to _Casablanca_, just because it’s held up so well for so long. I liked _Titanic_, but it didn’t give me the feeling of insight into the characters that I got with Bogie’s Rick.
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### Author:  [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/14 "2013-08-06T02:40:51Z")
I’m pretty sure _The Third Man_ is the best movie that has been made or that will ever be made. In addition to its passion play of moral ambiguity, its fantastic cinematography and music, and its delightful twist, it also has the wonderful aspect of being filmed in situ in post-war Vienna.
Quoting Time magazine’s review, it is “crammed with cinematic plums that would do the early Hitchcock proud—ingenious twists and turns of plot, subtle detail, full-bodied bit characters, atmospheric backgrounds that become an intrinsic part of the story, a deft commingling of the sinister with the ludicrous, the casual with the bizarre.”
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### Author:  [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/15 "2013-08-06T02:42:23Z")
Titanic is a fantastic movie that I adore, and in fact it got great reviews on its initial release before it became TITANIC and suffered comical backlash. But I don’t think it’s the best movie ever made.
The best movie ever made is **The Iron Giant** 🙂
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### Author:  [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/16 "2013-08-06T02:47:33Z")
I’ve never seen it; I know the ending.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/17 "2013-08-06T02:50:23Z")
I wouldn’t presume to declare any particular movie the “Best Ever”, and especially wouldn’t declare anything the best that ever will be. But I can still name plenty of movies that are better than Titanic.
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### Author:  [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/18 "2013-08-06T02:54:13Z")
My personal favorite movie: Contact
Best movie of all time, that will ever be: Kill Bill (both, I don’t consider them 2 movies)
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### Author:  [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/19 "2013-08-06T02:57:53Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> I wouldn’t presume to declare any particular movie the “Best Ever”, and especially wouldn’t declare anything the best that ever will be. But I can still name plenty of movies that are better than Titanic.
Well, here is your chance. Pick specific ones and go for it.
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### Author:  [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fact-titanic-is-the-best-movie-ever-made-or-ever-will-be-made-discuss/665461/20 "2013-08-06T03:00:28Z")
Titanic’s biggest flaw is the dialogue written by Mr. Cameron. He has to stop writing the dialogue. Give the story to someone who can write dialogue, and your movies would be improved 1000%.
But for entertainment value, _ **Titanic** _ is still pretty damned good.
It’s much easier to name the greatest television show in the history of the universe (_ **Breaking Bad** _) than the best film. Even favorite film… if it’s purely number of times watched, Zefferelli’s \*\*\*Romeo and Juliet \*\*\*would be extremely high on my list. I think as a film that is wildly entertaining , gorgeously shot and produced, perfectly paced, marvelously acted… it’s kinda hard to go wrong with _ **The Godfather.** _
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