# Fahrenheit four-five-one or four fifty one?

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**Created:** [May 16, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519 "2008-05-16T03:44:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/21 "2008-05-16T13:09:48Z")

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Another “four fifty one” man here.

Same thing for Boeing airplanes. “seven forty seven” not “seven four seven”.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/22 "2008-05-16T13:11:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Bayard]  
Same thing for Boeing airplanes. “seven forty seven” not “seven four seven”.  
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Hijack: I don’t recall ever hearing seven forty seven. It’s seven four seven to me. But it’s an MD eighty eight.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/23 "2008-05-16T14:16:38Z")

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It’s a temperature. When you read your thermometer or set your thermostat, how do you describe it? That’s how you’re going to say the book’s title.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/24 "2008-05-16T14:24:41Z")

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Well, no. If my thermometer reached 451 degrees, I probably wouldn’t be describing it at all.

If I were telling somebody a setting for, say, an oven, I would most likely say to set it at “four fifty one,” or set it at “four hundred and fifty one degrees Fahrenheit.” I would never use the format “Fahrenheit [followed by number]” in speech or print except in a quotation or reference to the title of a work.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/25 "2008-05-16T14:49:43Z")

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Four five one.

It’s a “Boeing seven four seven” to me as well.

I wonder if **Quartz** is right, and it’s different on either side of the pond?

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/26 "2008-05-16T14:59:27Z")

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[QUOTE=amarone]  
Hijack: I don’t recall ever hearing seven forty seven. It’s seven four seven to me. But it’s an MD eighty eight.  
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While I’ve heard “seven four seven,” I’m slightly more familiar with “seven forty seven” and that’s the wording I use for 747.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/27 "2008-05-16T15:17:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Bambi Hassenpfeffer]  
Doesn’t the opening narration in the movie use “Fahrenheit Four Five One”? I would swear to it, but surprisingly enough, YouTube doesn’t have a video of the opening titles.  
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How about [the trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfAIL0aZuUI)?

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/28 "2008-05-16T15:25:27Z")

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The caption for that video says “A Cinematic trailer I made for english class,” so it can hardly be considered authoritative.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/29 "2008-05-16T15:38:20Z")

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It does use clips from the movie, though. [Here’s the real trailer, courtesy TCM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiPwqTplfE&feature=related).

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fahrenheit-four-five-one-or-four-fifty-one/449519/30 "2008-05-16T16:18:36Z")

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According to the [Utopia](http://www.amazon.com/Swing-Right-Utopia/dp/B0000032PJ) song “Fahrenheit 451” it’s pronounced “four fifty-one.”

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