# Fake Live Recordings

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 16, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121 "2016-09-16T23:44:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/41 "2016-09-20T02:17:03Z")

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My first obvious encounter with fake crowd noise was on Procol Harum’s “Broken Barricades” album – their follow-up to “A Salty Dog”, and not nearly as good. The song “[Power Failure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN2gSrfoyIY)” was a decent slide guitar rocker with an odd, bubbly, 75-second drum solo in the middle. It was a studio album but they spliced in wild applause at the end of the solo and the return of ensemble playing.

There was no attempt to make the song sound live, but the applause worked very well in the mix.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/42 "2016-09-20T03:59:44Z")

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My friend in radio claims _Frampton Comes Alive_ is totally studio crap.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/43 "2016-09-20T05:46:24Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Jackson Browne’s **Running on Empty**.

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Is it? I’ve always thought this album was an amalgam of studio tracks, backstage recordings and live snippets, mixed together. For example, isn’t the second half of “The Road” a real live recording, edited in after the studio part?

I think **John DiFool** is whooshing us, mistaken, or confused. _Running on Empty_ was recorded entirely outside the studio, in live performances on stage, as well as backstage, in hotel rooms, and on the tour bus.

[Cite](http://americansongwriter.com/2012/12/behind-the-song-jackson-browne-running-on-empty/):

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> It’s important to remember that the song was the title track of an album dedicated to detailing life on the road in all its glory and squalor. To emphasize this notion even further, Browne literally recorded the album on the road, in hotel rooms, on buses, and, in the case of “Running On Empty,” on stage at the Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland.

I was at that performance in Columbia in 1977. They recorded another track in a nearby hotel. (I wasn’t present for that, although I had worked at that hotel a few years earlier.)

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/44 "2016-09-20T07:29:27Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> If I’d dig deeper in my mental musical archive, I could come up with more examples, but I decided to let the Dopers do the hard work. So, what else is there? I can’t think at the moment of a whole fake live album, but I bet they exist (the Beach Boys’ _Party_ album comes close, but that’s not quite the same thing).

Well, The KLF had _The White Room_, which had tracks sampling audience cheers to make them sound like they were playing vast stadiums: The KLF being who they were, this was all part of the joke.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/45 "2016-09-20T11:50:22Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Is Cheap Trick’s “I want you to want me” actually live? The only version you ever hear sounds like it is recorded live but I don’t know if it really is.

The studio version is more laid back.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4eAG4MZKXM)

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**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-live-recordings/766121/46 "2016-09-20T12:04:30Z")

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> [@Cell\_Guy](#):
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> According to Sammy Hagar Van Halen’s _Live:Right Here Right Now_ was completely rerecorded in the studio over the audience track.

I believe him when he says that that’s on Ed. Still irritates me.

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