# Fall River public pool (now with human corpse!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545 "2011-07-01T19:30:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/41 "2011-07-02T06:17:16Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Although obviously it didn’t bloat and float. Wonder why that would be? Stuck on something at the bottom? Sucked onto a filter? Feet encased in cement? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/42 "2011-07-02T06:35:53Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > For one thing, if Pool #1 was so murky that they couldn’t see a body, how would you know that the other pools _didn’t_ hide a body, too? I patiently wait for the “Divers recover three bodies, five opossums, sixteen racoons, and one small horse from area pools” report. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/43 "2011-07-02T06:43:41Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Yep-there was just a scandal in the state department of escalator/elevator inspections. Seems a five year old fell through a gap, between the wall and an escalator landing, in a shopping mall in Worcester county. > The union admitted that most of the inspectors did not know the regulations regarding this..and that the inspectors had approved this escalator for public use. > So having no competent maintainence of the DCR pools does not surprise me. I don’t think that the word “evidence” means what you think it means. When you make an assertion about “no-show” jobs at the pools, and i ask you for evidence to support your claim, making _another_ unsupported assertion about scandals in elevator inspections does not qualify as evidence for the first claim. Of course, it’s pretty much what i expected. Just another **ralphFact[sup]TM[/sup]** to add to all the others. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/44 "2011-07-02T06:46:23Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I mean, I seriously doubt you could pull up a several days dead body and confuse it for a just-croaked one, right? Although obviously it didn’t bloat and float. It [did](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/mostpopular/28423164/detail.html), actually. > [@](#): > > Joseph’s body was in the pool from the time of her death on June 26 until its discovery on June 28, the medical examiner said. > “The surfacing of Ms. Joseph’s body on Tuesday evening June 28 resulted from the natural post-mortem changes of the human body,” the medical examiner’s office said. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/45 "2011-07-02T06:52:08Z")
Fixed your [link](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/mostpopular/28423164/detail.html), **Larry**. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/46 "2011-07-02T07:33:31Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Fixed your [link](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/mostpopular/28423164/detail.html), **Larry**. Thanks for that. If I’m going to have occasion to wonder “Hey, what the hell happened to my colon?!” I’m glad that these are the particular circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/47 "2011-07-02T10:01:18Z")
OK, following more info, I’ll be willing to admit it looks like she was in that pool for days. Honestly, that’s pretty horrific. The public pools I used to go to were always chlorinated to the point of “pretty-damn-clear water” and had brightly painted bottoms. I get squicked at the thought of swimming in a pool that _could_ conceal a dead body. The cynic in me is waiting for the lawsuits to follow. both for illnesses and psychological damage…though I’d probably have some psychological trauma myself. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/48 "2011-07-02T10:53:27Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Wait. It would seem that someone threw in the already dead body and little Joseph made his story up. > > I think. _Joseph_ was the last name of the woman who drowned. Marie Joseph. The nine year old boy has not been named. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/49 "2011-07-02T12:14:45Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > The probe shows the water in the Fall River pool was murky from the time the pool opened for the season last Saturday. Visibility tests conducted Wednesday revealed a diver couldn’t be seen at a depth of 3½ to 4 feet below the surface of the water. > > - Like I said–a thin stew. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/50 "2011-07-02T16:29:15Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I patiently wait for the “Divers recover three bodies, five opossums, sixteen racoons, and one small horse from area pools” report. Who gets the salvage rights if they find a sunken galleon or those missing TBM Avengers from '45? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/51 "2011-07-02T17:10:00Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There’s going to be a complete overhaul of the procedures to avoid anything like this happening in the future. > > From now on, the weekly check for dead bodies in the pool will be done on Mondays instead of Fridays. So now I’ve got to keep my weekend kills in the garage until Tuesday? Do you know how bad that’s going to smell in summer? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/52 "2011-07-02T20:15:02Z")
Yeah, that’s pretty damned murky. We soak for hours in our local hot pool, and the lifeguards there check the pH a couple of times at least while we’re in there - to state the REALLY obvious, people were not doing their jobs here. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/53 "2011-07-02T22:19:59Z")
Ralphie took [this](http://www.veoh.com/watch/v1879401177E2TNX5?h1=Tales+of+Fraud+and+Malfeasance+in+Railroad+Hiring+Practices) as a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/54 "2011-07-02T22:28:38Z")
Anyone have her in their Dead Pool? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/55 "2011-07-02T22:40:15Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > Anyone have her in their Dead Pool? 😛 I cannot fathom how something like this could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/56 "2011-07-02T23:22:32Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I cannot fathom how something like this could happen. Full fathom five… Well… four, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/57 "2011-07-02T23:39:27Z")
I think it’s only full fathom two (1 fathom = six feet), or one mark twain (as opposed to one Mark Twain, who is also dead). ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/58 "2011-07-02T23:53:08Z")
I can’t imagine being one of the people that swam in that pool. I think I’d be suffering from PTSD. I’d be living in my bathroom taking turns puking my guts up and showering with bleach. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/59 "2011-07-02T23:58:44Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I think it’s only full fathom two (1 fathom = six feet), or one mark twain (as opposed to one Mark Twain, who is also dead). My estimate is based on the assumption that the deep end of the pool is ~20 feet deep, and, as I am a short-arse, [fathoms](http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Fathom) are smaller when it’s me wot measures 'em. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545/60 "2011-07-03T00:15:35Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > > [@ralph124c](#): > > > > Yep-there was just a scandal in the state department of escalator/elevator inspections. Seems a five year old fell through a gap, between the wall and an escalator landing, in a shopping mall in Worcester county. > > The union admitted that most of the inspectors did not know the regulations regarding this..and that the inspectors had approved this escalator for public use. > > So having no competent maintainence of the DCR pools does not surprise me. > > I don’t think that the word “evidence” means what you think it means. > > When you make an assertion about “no-show” jobs at the pools, and i ask you for evidence to support your claim, making _another_ unsupported assertion about scandals in elevator inspections does not qualify as evidence for the first claim. > > Of course, it’s pretty much what i expected. Just another **ralphFact[sup]TM[/sup]** to add to all the others. I realize that I’m raining on your completely understandable desire to crap on Ralph. That he did fail to provide any evidence to back up his assertion. However, the facts of the matter are that his capsule summary of the scandal with the Massachusetts Department of Public Safety seems reasonably accurate. [Two fired six suspended after boys escalator death](http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/business_news/x1401930120/Two-fired-six-suspended-after-boys-escalator-death) [State to fire 2 inspectors in mall death - 32 staff are disciplined over safety violations](http://www.jdmoleski.com/conversion-pages/in-the-news/) [Most mall escalators lack full state inspections](http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-25/news/29472107_1_escalator-inspections-shopping-malls-inspection-reports) [State cracking down on escalators with expired inspection papers](http://www.enterprisenews.com/features/x1870097645/State-cracking-down-on-escalators-with-expired-inspection-papers) I don’t like Ralph. I agree he failed, completely, to give you any proof of his assertions. That doesn’t make his assertion false, however. I have a problem with what I call state monopoly charges, where a licensing fee is collected as a price of doing business within the state, but once collected the state offers no policing nor inspection of the profession being licensed. The jobs related to such licensing fees often seem to be little more than sinecures for the politically connected. If you don’t think that’s a real problem with state bureaucracies, you’re doing a damned good imitation of an idiot. Almost as good as Ralph’s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fall-river-public-pool-now-with-human-corpse/587545.md?page=4)