# Falling Skies: New TNT Series Starts Sunday

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 18, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955 "2011-06-18T18:35:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/182 "2011-07-20T15:32:55Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> No need for spoiler boxes after we’ve been talking openly about the show for weeks.  
> But yeah, that plan didn’t even have the superficiality of sounding reasonable. Even if it had been “send all your civilians ahead while the fighters delay” that makes more sense, and you could have a subplot in which the civilians were killed or abandoned and the kids taken. But just saying “oh hey guys yeah just give us your kids. And stay here. And keep the adult civvies with you” makes no sense from any angle.

I don’t get this argument - within the context of the show, the perfessor even cited this type of thing being done during the blitz of london - sending the kids to the countryside.

as for not sending the civilians - while they may not be ‘fighters’ - they all still have roles and jobs to do - now, they should have sent the pregnant lady- but they even addressed this to some degree by saying they were sending the children that were ‘most at risk’ to be captured and harnessed.

IOW, yes, telegraphed a mile a way that this was going to be a bad move - but from within the context of the show, I have no issue with them agreeing (reluctantly) with the plan - protect the kids - maintain the base until the 3rd Mass arrives - move out.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/183 "2011-07-20T15:42:20Z")

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I think the plan made sense, it was just poorly explained. That school was a base to them. Plenty of space from everyone inside, they had already settled down. Picking up everything and moving again is not good. They would just be wandering through the state. They would only move if it was an absolute necessary.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/184 "2011-07-20T17:15:38Z")

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So, we only learn what it was like to be a “slave” for the aliens because a little kid asked his brother in a private conversation?  
Not a single adult thought to ask the kids about how it was, how did they communicate, what was it like so maybe they could get into the mindset? Nobody thought this might be of interest with regards to understanding their aggressors and communicating with them, or at least listening in?  
Idiots.  
The human race deserves to be devoured if this is how they run things…

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/185 "2011-07-20T23:11:05Z")

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What did the aliens do with blonde motorcycle chick? Kill her? Harness her? Ship her to Antares VII to sell as a sex slave? Even oldest son seems to have completely forgotten about her. You’d think now that they got middle son back he’d be going nuts wanting to go look for her.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/186 "2011-07-21T00:00:13Z")

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According to IMDB the actress, Jessy Schram, is in the next two episodes.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/187 "2011-07-21T23:23:26Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> According to IMDB the actress, Jessy Schram, is in the next two episodes.

I’d say “cool” but IMDB cast listings of unaired episodes of shows have proven to be unreliable at best in the past. I think sometimes they just copypasta the first ep credits across the whole season.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/188 "2011-07-25T03:20:33Z")

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I’m starting to think the whole kids thing is just a red herring and the aliens are only interested in killing the disposable black men.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/189 "2011-07-25T19:11:48Z")

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Two things that bothered me about last night’s show.

The commander dude doing the “Mr. Miyagi” thing on pregnant lady.

The con dude wussing out when he had a chance to stab his captor in the throat. I was really hoping for a darker tone to this series.

Anyway, I’m still going to watch as I am a Sci-Fi slut.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/190 "2011-07-25T20:44:11Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Two things that bothered me about last night’s show.
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> The commander dude doing the “Mr. Miyagi” thing on pregnant lady.
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> The con dude wussing out when he had a chance to stab his captor in the throat. I was really hoping for a darker tone to this series.
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> Anyway, I’m still going to watch as I am a Sci-Fi slut.

I’ve been puzzling over the wuss out scence. I’m trying to decide if it was just bad writing or incredibly good writing. The show does suffer mightly from characters doing stupid, illogically completely senseless things. However, it could be good writing if it’s part of a character arc going one of two paths. Path one, it could be a sign of con dude developing a conscience which properly done could be good story line. Path two, it could be sign a nice twist, in which it is revealed that con dude isn’t quite what he appears or as tough as he fronts. Let’s face it, his cooking skills seem a little off for his sort of character: fresh baked bread and asparagus, rarely happen in most prison kitchens. He might have been in prison, but wasn’t one of the tougher dogs. However he learned their ways and since the invasion he’s tried to reinvent himself. I think that could be a fantastic plot twist.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/191 "2011-07-26T03:53:16Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> and of course - he will still end up dieing a ‘hero’s death’ before the end of this - he’ll do something redeemable - at least partially so.

[You win!](http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/1732/original/winternet.jpg)

The best part of the episode? “ONLY TWO EPISODES LEFT!!!”

Yep, “THE TRUTH IS WORSE THAN THEIR DARKEST FEARS!!!1!!!1 ELEVENTY!!!”

At this point I am going to stick it out till the season finale. More out of a morbid fascination than any actual enjoyment.

That all being said, this wasn’t a bad ep, as they go…

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/192 "2011-07-26T04:04:39Z")

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And there may be one other reason I am staying around:

[Holy Moley!](http://gallery.celebritypro.com/data/media/816/moon-bloodgood-loaded-uk-july-2009-4.jpg)

/tea, undies, etc.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/193 "2011-07-26T04:28:29Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> [You win!](http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/1732/original/winternet.jpg)
> 
> The best part of the episode? “ONLY TWO EPISODES LEFT!!!”
> 
> Yep, “THE TRUTH IS WORSE THAN THEIR DARKEST FEARS!!!1!!!1 ELEVENTY!!!”
> 
> At this point I am going to stick it out till the season finale. More out of a morbid fascination than any actual enjoyment.
> 
> That all being said, this wasn’t a bad ep, as they go…

yup - I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong -

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/194 "2011-07-26T04:40:43Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> I don’t think they’re after meth.

No, that would be the writers of this drek fest!

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/195 "2011-07-26T04:42:07Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> yup - I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong -

But you weren’t! Yeah he wasn’t killed, but he could have been. You called it.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/196 "2011-07-26T04:49:07Z")

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Another thing, I am hating is they are still in that stupid school. Yeah, it’s a TV budget (cable TV no less) but shouldn’t they be moving on? ESPECIALLY AFTER A SKITTER AND A MECH FOUND OUT THEIR LOCATION? Time to put out the candles, pack up the kid’s pictures and bug out.

Also, must every home the mobile bands break into look like a rich television producer’s house? Somebody is getting fat here.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/197 "2011-07-26T04:54:14Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> But you weren’t! Yeah he wasn’t killed, but he could have been. You called it.

I think you missed it - They captured/surrounded them - they had the hands up - then the leader guy went to pull his gun to kill perfesser’s oldest - perfesser shot him - he died.

The rest of the group (that was still left - there were 2 or 3 shot for sure) - were left alive with a stern talking to and warning.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/198 "2011-07-26T21:58:55Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> Another thing, I am hating is they are still in that stupid school. Yeah, it’s a TV budget (cable TV no less) but shouldn’t they be moving on? ESPECIALLY AFTER A SKITTER AND A MECH FOUND OUT THEIR LOCATION? Time to put out the candles, pack up the kid’s pictures and bug out.

Where else are they gonna go that the aliens aren’t going to be as equally likely to find them? It was one thing to move under what they thought were orders and news of an incoming full scale attack, it’s another to pick up and move after every minor skirmish with a scouting team. Particularly when the aliens haven’t been bothering with groups their size or smaller.

Of course, that point makes that trading kids deal with the other group seem bizarre. They were a pretty small group, and even assuming they’d lost a lot of people along the way before striking up the deal, it still seems they’d still be way smaller than the group at the school. Why were the skitters even messing with them to begin with? Either there’s more to the story than we’ve been told, or it’s sloppy writing. (probably the 2nd)

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/199 "2011-07-27T02:39:24Z")

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> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#):
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> At this point I am going to stick it out till the season finale. More out of a morbid fascination than any actual enjoyment.

Same here. Me, I’m enjoying the “effete Apocalypse” moments like the impromptu soccer match with the Adirondack decor goals. 😃

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/200 "2011-07-27T02:47:41Z")

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I like this episode best, aside from the required baby stuff. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falling-skies-new-tnt-series-starts-sunday/585955/201 "2011-07-30T21:13:00Z")

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"If I hear of any of you dealing with skitters again, I’ll kill ya’.

I think that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It came right after they didn’t shoot the traitor’s leader until " ‘oops’ here’s another gun…now you _HAVE_ to shoot me!"

These guys betrayed their species and stole your _children_ to be served up as harnessed slaves to alien reptiles. And you are gonna let them _walk away_???

No. You shoot all of them, you hang them like Christmas decorations from the trees then head back to pack up the school and hightail it out.

Then you punch Noah Wylie, just 'cause you don’t like his face anymore.

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