# Fallout 4 Countdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 2, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450 "2015-06-02T16:36:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/181 "2015-09-20T23:47:30Z")
I think all of you guys should avoid this game. You will definitely hate it. Those of you with Pip Boy editions let me know, I’ll take those off your hands. Wait at least a month before buying (and downloading) all of you…or at least until after I have mine downloaded… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/182 "2015-09-21T00:43:46Z")
I’m waiting until Steam has a sale. And possibly until I have a new video card. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/183 "2015-09-21T16:52:29Z")
Man, there was that one year when Steam had Arkham Asylum and Arkham City in Game of the Year Editions for dirt cheap and I got to binge on those. There’s a lot to be said for waiting. I’m hoping for an Arkham Origins Deluxe Edition on sale this Christmas. Maybe even Shadows of Mordor and Borderlands: The Pre-sequel. But… not Fallout. I think I’ll just go ahead and take one for the team there, paying full first-run price. The rest of you can try catching up on the SDMB discussion of the game a year later. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/184 "2015-09-21T23:43:41Z")
Historically Bethesda open-world games have required bleeding edge hardware to run at max settings, but have performed pretty well on middle-of-the-road stuff so long as you’re willing to dial down the graphical goodies. As I understand things this is running on Skyrim’s engine, so if you can run that you should be good. You just might not be able to use the swankiest texture maps and lighting googaws. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/185 "2015-09-22T00:39:17Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > That casts a slightly different light on things. By those specs, my CPU is well over minimum, but my GPU is still considerably under. Oh well, I was hoping to get another year out of my 7850. Maybe I still can. We shall see what we shall see. > [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > Maybe even Shadows of Mordor and Borderlands: The Pre-sequel. I’m not saying that the games are comparable, but I got Shadow of Mordor ($15 or so FWIW), and while it isn’t as big as Bethesda games, is still an open world. And it runs basically perfectly on my circa 2009 computer. The main thing I upgraded since was my video card, and even it’s not top of the line (GTX 750 Ti, something like that?). Skyrim ran fine although it couldn’t really handle the official graphics packs. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/186 "2015-09-22T01:17:55Z")
Those specs are on-par for der\_Witcher 3 (that’s probably where they stole them from), so that’s probably a reasonable guess. If you ran Witcher 3, you’re going to be fine. If you didn’t play Witcher 3, stop wasting your time on a Bethsoft-written Fallout game and go play that masterpiece. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/187 "2015-09-22T01:18:29Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Those of you with Pip Boy editions let me know, I’ll take those off your hands. You can have my Pip-Boy when you take it off my cold dead wrist. At that point, you can have the cell phone too if you want it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/188 "2015-09-25T05:04:31Z")
[Bethesda has more info about its leveling system](http://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/fallout-4s-character-system/2015/09/24/31). And apparently the [Perks poster](http://bethesda.net/data/images/event/31/Fallout_4_Perk_Poster_web.jpg) will come free with all pre-ordered copies. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/189 "2015-09-25T14:58:55Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > You can have my Pip-Boy when you take it off my cold dead wrist. At that point, you can have the cell phone too if you want it. I love a challenge! ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/190 "2015-09-29T07:03:41Z")
I’m a bit annoyed to hear that the companion ‘Dogmeat’ will be unable to die. My least favourite thing about Skyrim was that quite a few of the characters were arbitrarily made immortal. I want to be able to fail the main quest, and surround myself with corpses, or it’s not a completely ‘open world’. ---
**Author:** ![Garula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Garula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garula)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/191 "2015-09-29T08:06:40Z")
I absolutely hate pre-release hype and do my best to ignore it all, but I confess Fallout 4 has weakened my defenses a bit. I like the little stat videos and they make good use of Vault Boy. They’re a bit of a misfire in that I think overly sanitized, bloodless violence would be a better fit, but they’re still fun. I’m also pretty optimistic about the stats system. Getting a few stat points on a level just isn’t very interesting. I like the focus on perks and getting a new little gameplay toy or quick every level. My concern is that Bethesda kinda sucks at making interesting abilities, Skyrim’s perk trees are filled with bland stat boosts, but in principle I love it. I’m completely okay with Dogmeat being immortal. I’m not a hardcore, ironman player and if I’m being completely honest I can’t imagine not reloading if he did die. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/192 "2015-09-29T08:44:37Z")
Choosing between immortal Dogmeat and his previous made-of-glass incarnation, I’ll take immortal every day. I realize that there’s a potential middle ground there but that’s not what they’re offering us. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/193 "2015-09-29T09:10:31Z")
Bbbut… puppies. Or excuse me, [Puppies!](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Puppies!) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/194 "2015-09-29T15:23:19Z")
I worked hard in Fallout to keep Dogmeat alive, generally by locking him into rooms so he wouldn’t go wandering into security fields, step on mines, etc. Ian, I’m afraid, had to die because he could work a door knob. But for these newer games, I’ve just been setting my companions essential in the console. The challenge of keeping them alive doesn’t interest me any more. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/195 "2015-09-29T18:05:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I worked hard in Fallout to keep Dogmeat alive, generally by locking him into rooms so he wouldn’t go wandering into security fields, step on mines, etc. Ian, I’m afraid, had to die because he could work a door knob. But for these newer games, I’ve just been setting my companions essential in the console. The challenge of keeping them alive doesn’t interest me any more. /nod. Plenty of times, I wind up dismissing followers because frankly, none of them are as good at stealth as my characters, who always wind up either stealth snipers or melee ninjas. Sucks when your dog bumps into your target and alerts them to you, or aggros and starts attacking before I want to. And if you don’t go for a stealth build, there are still plenty of liabilities, like friendly fire. My firebug/demolitionist builds almost always run solo for that reason, even with companion-damage-reduction feats. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/196 "2015-09-29T18:23:09Z")
You can always tell your companions to stay at your house/room. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/197 "2015-10-07T22:02:03Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > You can always tell your companions to stay at your house/room. It would still take me out of the game knowing there’s an immortal dog waiting for me at home. On a different matter; in the new SPECIAL Intelligence cartoon, it makes reference to it helping with computers, robots (perhaps) and medicine - is that also a vehicle the character sits on at the end? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/198 "2015-10-07T22:43:00Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > It would still take me out of the game knowing there’s an immortal dog waiting for me at home. > > On a different matter; in the new SPECIAL Intelligence cartoon, it makes reference to it helping with computers, robots (perhaps) and medicine - is that also a vehicle the character sits on at the end? Shouldnt an immortal dog belong to an immortal human player? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/199 "2015-10-08T16:39:57Z")
Supposed official system requirements: > [@](#): > > PC Systems Requirements (Requires Internet Connection and Free Steam Account to Activate) > > **Minimum** > Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required) > Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent > 8 GB RAM > 30 GB free HDD space > NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent > > **Recommended** > Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required) > Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent > 8 GB RAM > 30 GB free HDD space > NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/200 "2015-10-08T16:57:36Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > It would still take me out of the game knowing there’s an immortal dog waiting for me at home. Then I’m afraid you’re doomed to get taken out of the game by the hundreds of other metagame absurdities as well. Like, why do humans take so goddamned many shots to the face before they cease to be a threat to you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=11)