# Fallout 4 Countdown

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 2, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450 "2015-06-02T16:36:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/21 "2015-06-03T14:20:01Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> So is see we’ll have Dogmeat again in the party 😃

So, do we think this is all in-engine?

I’m inclined to think so as, frankly, Dogmeat (let’s just assume that’s his name) looked a bit ropey, very flat and non-hairy. And IIRC lacking in shadows. If that was FMV they’d have done it a bit better.

I did appreciate what looked like blue skies in the post-apocalyptical world.

[http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/11/blue-sky-in-games-campaign-launched.html](http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/11/blue-sky-in-games-campaign-launched.html)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/22 "2015-06-03T14:27:41Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> So, do we think this is all in-engine?
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> I’m inclined to think so as, frankly, Dogmeat (let’s just assume that’s his name) looked a bit ropey, very flat and non-hairy. And IIRC lacking in shadows. If that was FMV they’d have done it a bit better.
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> I did appreciate what looked like blue skies in the post-apocalyptical world.
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> [Game + Life Review (2/10): BLUE SKY IN GAMES CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED](http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/11/blue-sky-in-games-campaign-launched.html)

Looked like Skyrim’s engine, definitely seems more colourful than Fallout 3’s washed out palette. Rain, too!

Also, totally [called it.](http://s1.postimg.org/q9rzgfcml/fenway.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/23 "2015-06-03T14:28:39Z")

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I see they went with the safe choice of brown and grey for the landscape again though. Where does all the dead brown grass come from if there’s never any green live grass?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/24 "2015-06-03T14:30:26Z")

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I’m stoked for Boston. I’ve been there!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/25 "2015-06-03T14:35:47Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I see they went with the safe choice of brown and grey for the landscape again though. Where does all the dead brown grass come from if there’s never any green live grass?

Maybe it’s not dead but just mutated so it looks dead. The brahmin have to eat something right?

According to [Fallout4.com](http://Fallout4.com) Bethesda is doing an E3 showcase on June 14th, hopefully they’ll give us some info on when it’s shipping. Skyrim’s teaser trailer was a full 11 months before the game came out so I’m guessing Q2 2016.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/26 "2015-06-03T14:37:20Z")

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I had my usual concern that when we’re talking about hundreds of years since the apocalypse, those homes ought to show signs of attempted maintenance or be completely collapsed. A suburban American home without maintenance will not simply be a crumbly and dirty version of what it was the moment the bombs fell. It might be a rectangular pile of rubble, but even that may be underestimating the effect of erosion in a world whose weather patterns have shifted dramatically.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/27 "2015-06-03T14:46:56Z")

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Between this and XCom 2, I guess it’s finally time for me to build a new computer.

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/28 "2015-06-03T14:58:17Z")

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I just shamed myself. ☹

Going home to get new pants.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/29 "2015-06-03T15:01:31Z")

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I notice that they’re directing preorders to Amazon, Best Buy and GameStop, but only Best Buy even has a Fallout 4 page. Maybe they are supposed to fill them in after the announcement?

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/30 "2015-06-03T15:18:44Z")

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I didn’t recognise the setting. Anyone know what part of the US it’s based in?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/31 "2015-06-03T15:19:55Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> I didn’t recognise the setting. Anyone know what part of the US it’s based in?

So, what is your TLDR threshold?

Sorry, just giving you crap. Read above. Boston.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/32 "2015-06-03T15:21:40Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> So, what is your TLDR threshold?

Crap, I swear I looked at this thread thoroughly! :smack:

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/33 "2015-06-03T15:22:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> So, what is your TLDR threshold?
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> Sorry, just giving you crap. Read above. Boston.

😃 \>2

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/34 "2015-06-03T15:23:01Z")

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I swear I saw a possible drivable car in the trailer…haven’t been able to watch it again, though.

Anybody catch a hint of any kind of local co-op?

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/35 "2015-06-03T15:26:56Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I swear I saw a car in the trailer…haven’t been able to watch it again, though.

I saw wrecked cars - same as in FO3 and NV - but not anything that suggests they’re drivable.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/36 "2015-06-03T15:40:28Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> I saw wrecked cars - same as in FO3 and NV - but not anything that suggests they’re drivable.

Aww shoot, you’re right. I was watching with one eye on my phone…turns out it was a brahmin.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/37 "2015-06-03T16:12:02Z")

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There was a view from a Vertibird as it took off. There was in Fallout 3’s Broken Steel too, though as part of a cinematic, hopefully this time you can use them as regular transporting.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/38 "2015-06-03T16:22:09Z")

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Anybody have a guess at the optimum system requirements? Or opinion on how much difference there will be between the Xbox and a good PC?

I’d love to use this as an excuse for a new PC.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/39 "2015-06-03T16:24:00Z")

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Even ignoring all of the technical superiority, Bethesda games are barely the same game on PC. With a huge array of high quality mods, not only can you fix all of the poor design found in the game but you can add so much content and change the game to play any way you want it to. The vanilla games are empty shells in comparison to what they can become. It’s sad to think that most people never get a chance to see that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/40 "2015-06-03T16:29:21Z")

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I was a bit surprised that they dug up an Ink Spots song that is not only not in my collection, but that I’ve never even heard of. I mean, I’m not claiming to have a seamless collection, but I thought I had heard their whole catalog. It’s googlin’ time, it seems.

The last time around they picked _I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire_, which would have been my first choice. After that would have been [_Just Suppose_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjMA8Jp00tA) by Lee Andrews & the Hearts. But _It’s All Over but the Crying_ is also an excellent choice. You could argue that in the original games, the song choices were better because they weren’t thematically related at all, thus the irony and as such echoes a similar choice made for the end of Dr. Strangelove. But I do like the trick of juxtaposing a sad song as though we are invited to see some lyrics as touching upon the much more apocalyptic tragedy.

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