# Fallout 4 Countdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 2, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450 "2015-06-02T16:36:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/61 "2015-06-04T12:50:20Z")
Fallout 4 is available for pre-order on Steam. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/62 "2015-06-04T12:53:52Z")
It’s available for pre-purchase on Steam (and is in the top ten sellers, above The Witcher 3(!)), no release date though. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/63 "2015-06-04T13:33:28Z")
Thanks for the mod tips. I read about the Josh Sawyer one and I am umming and aahing a bit. It feels a bit too much like pushing the standard experience closer to the hardcore experience. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/64 "2015-06-04T13:39:43Z")
Oh boy! I’m finishing up NV again, tying up loose ends. I’ve been dragging my feet going back to Big MT because I don’t want to leave Cass ( and her marksman rifle) behind. Let the modding begin… ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/65 "2015-06-04T13:44:00Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Thanks for the mod tips. I read about the Josh Sawyer one and I am umming and aahing a bit. It feels a bit too much like pushing the standard experience closer to the hardcore experience. I’ve had a lot of fun with Project Nevada. I think my next play through will use it and Sawyer’s mod mentioned above. I’d read about, but never tried Sawyer’s, but evidently they work well together if you don’t use PN’s rebalancing. I usually play it on Hardcore though, so my recs may not work for you. The DLC is fun, and worth your time, IMHO, even if a lot of the loot is ridiculously overpowered. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/66 "2015-06-04T13:47:48Z")
So, I haven’t played any of the Fallout games. Should I start with 1 and work my way through, or just jump in at 4? I figure 1-3 will figure prominently in the Steam Summer Sale… ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/67 "2015-06-04T13:51:46Z")
START WITH 1!! Sorry for the caps ( no pun intended) but really. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/68 "2015-06-04T13:53:04Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, I haven’t played any of the Fallout games. Should I start with 1 and work my way through, or just jump in at 4? I figure 1-3 will figure prominently in the Steam Summer Sale… I would just start with #4. Each one is a standalone game, and just because you enjoy the First Person RPG of the more recent games does not mean you’ll enjoy the old games. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/69 "2015-06-04T13:55:51Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > How do you tell the difference between pre- and post-apocalyptic Boston anyway? I assume it’s mostly that the traffic is slightly better. > > Think the Big Dig will be a giant underground nest of death? With everything else in the Fallout world so radically different, what makes you think the Big Dig would be allowed to stay completely unchanged from today? 😛 Actually, they could recycle the [Tunnelers](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Tunneler) from the FONV _Lonesome Road_ DLC. Those are always fun to play against, and the setting would be right. It would take some lore-wanking to put them on the East Coast when the storyline spun in _Lonesome Road_ is that they originate in the Divide, but Bethesda has played fast-and-loose with continuity before. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/70 "2015-06-04T14:01:31Z")
One thing I hope they bring back in 4 that was missing in New Vegas was the various random events happening in the wasteland. My favorite moment in 3 was walking up to an abandoned house only to have a guy on fire being chased by a raider come running around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/71 "2015-06-04T14:02:30Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, I haven’t played any of the Fallout games. Should I start with 1 and work my way through, or just jump in at 4? I figure 1-3 will figure prominently in the Steam Summer Sale… Depends. 1 & 2 are old so you’d know better than I would your tolerance for low res, turn based isometric games. They’re definitely worth playing (and I’m a rare soul who liked 1 considerably more than 2) in that they tell a good story and have interesting worlds, but the presentation might put you off. 3 and New Vegas are more modern games with more modern presentations. Both also worth playing (I think 3 is the weakest story out of the four games but still well worth a run) and if you enjoy your games looking like they were made in this gaming era then I’d start with 3. As mentioned, they are all stand alone and although there’s callbacks, you could play any of them alone and get a complete story. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/72 "2015-06-04T14:12:11Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > … if you enjoy your games looking like they were made in this gaming era then I’d start with 3. Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/73 "2015-06-04T14:19:08Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. I run Windows 7 and Fallouts 1, 2, 3 and New Vegas all work without any faffing about. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/74 "2015-06-04T14:20:00Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. Wow, I thought it was compatible with 7 and 8. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/75 "2015-06-04T14:46:41Z")
1 and 2 are available on Steam and don’t appear to have any version restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/76 "2015-06-04T14:47:53Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. FO3 has some issues dealing with multicore processors. It’s ridiculous that it wasn’t fixed but if you have problems [it’s an easy fix](http://fallout3-multicore-crash-fix.blogspot.com/) on the user end. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/77 "2015-06-04T14:50:25Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. Fallout 3 required Games For Windows Live. Since Games For Windows Live is now a dead service, I don’t know whether that would cause problems. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/78 "2015-06-04T15:07:16Z")
Fortunately, with Window 10, backwards-compatibility issues will be a thing of the past! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/79 "2015-06-04T15:13:35Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Can you play 3 on any modern system? I’d like to play it (or parts of it, anyway) again, but so far as I know, it was never made compatible with Windows 7, much less anything newer. The problem that it won’t even try to run if you have more than one monitor persists. Otherwise, it seems to run. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/80 "2015-06-04T15:43:58Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Thanks for the mod tips. I read about the Josh Sawyer one and I am umming and aahing a bit. It feels a bit too much like pushing the standard experience closer to the hardcore experience. Oh it’s mos def’ meant to be played with hardcore mode enabled. But then hardcore mode is sort of the default toggle for me :o - IMO you can’t really get a proper post-apocalyptic Mad Max survivor experience when you can haul three times infinity bullets, three hundred stimpacks, a dozen repair kits and fourty-three different guns. Being forced to make choices, play a bit more cautiously and not mindlessly hoover every lootable in sight actually improves the game for me. The bio needs (food/water/sleep) are really not a big deal when every town has a doctor that can heal up any radiation poisoning for 100 bucks a pop. Drink from glowing toilets and eat ghoul feces if you have to, who cares :). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=5)