# Fallout 4 Countdown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 2, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450 "2015-06-02T16:36:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/161 "2015-08-29T03:28:03Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > This song was in the Conalrad radio addon to FO 3 and NV. Definitely. I was getting massively tired of it by the end of Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/162 "2015-09-06T20:40:22Z")
More info: > **[Everything We Know About Fallout 4 So Far](https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/07/29/everything-we-know-about-fallout-4-so-far.aspx)** > > This is your one-stop shop for all of the big news about Bethesda’s blockbuster. We’ll keep it updated with the latest info and features leading up to Fallout 4’s big release on November 10. I don’t know why I read this stuff, with the game still two freaking months away. Arrrrgh. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/163 "2015-09-07T10:13:19Z")
Bit of a related update. Much earlier in this thread I said I’d give New Vegas another go, but modded up to skip the bugs. Well I did. The end result? New Vegas is still bugged to shit. Pathetically badly. I’ve had to resort to the console on several occasions, but it has got really bad of late. Ranger Grant refused to acknowledge me before the president’s arrival and after his arrival, and me keeping him alive, the Colonel Moore that I am supposed to report to no longer exists. The map marker tells me to go through a door, but if I do so the map marker tells me to go back through the same door. Using the console to jump to her crashes the game. Basically, I have one or two other things to try otherwise I am going to have to give up. I’m really glad some of you got to enjoy New Vegas, for me it has been an endless source of frustration. You can argue that time limits on the development caused it to be released bugged (and even then, Obsidian should have probably dialled back on the plans so as to make it work), but for it to be like this several years after release? Unacceptable. Fallout 4 had better not be like this, but I fear it will be. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/164 "2015-09-07T14:44:36Z")
Amanset, not sure it would help but have you tried a reinstall? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/165 "2015-09-07T15:08:24Z")
…I’ve played through NV several times. I’ve never found it to be that buggy. Are you sure there’s not something you’re missing on the mission? Moore can be in her office or in her quarters iirc. Hang out in the office and rest until midday. My biggest complaint about bugginess is getting stuck in a crack between rocks and/or falling through the landscape. F4 is a different engine entirely, so that might not be an issue again. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/166 "2015-09-07T16:36:09Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Amanset, not sure it would help but have you tried a reinstall? Or if on steam run a check integrity of game cache ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/167 "2015-09-07T16:39:25Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > …I’ve played through NV several times. I’ve never found it to be that buggy. Are you sure there’s not something you’re missing on the mission? Moore can be in her office or in her quarters iirc. Hang out in the office and rest until midday. > > My biggest complaint about bugginess is getting stuck in a crack between rocks and/or falling through the landscape. > > F4 is a different engine entirely, so that might not be an issue again. Then you are lucky. Many of the reviews at the time commented on the buggy nature: > **[Fallout: New Vegas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas#Reception)** > > Fallout: New Vegas is a 2010 action role-playing game developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Bethesda Softworks. It was released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360. Set in the Mojave Desert 204 years after a devastating nuclear war, the player controls a courier who wakes up after being shot in the head by an unknown assailant. While tracking down their assailant, the courier becomes embroiled in a larger conflict between different governing factions vying for con... Nope, I’m not missing anything. I just watched the President fly away and was told to go see Moore to let her know that the President is safe. It doesn’t get any more basic and straightforward than that. As I said, I have to try a few things, but for the most part I am a bit fed up. I have had to deal with numerous crashes and had to go back to an earlier save, replay two hours and still do some console stuff just for Ranger Grant to give me the option of doing the President bit. Oh and here’s an Ars Technica article that outright says that if we accept buggy games like New Vegas then we will continue to get buggy games: > **[Fallout: New Vegas is buggy as hell; where’s the outrage?](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2010/10/fallout-new-vegas-is-buggy-as-hell-but-wheres-the-outrage/)** > > Gamers usually love to complain about buggy, unfinished games, but Fallout… Oh and for the record, Fallout 4’s engine is based on Gamebryo and still contains code from it. > **[Creation Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Engine)** > > Creation Engine is a 3D video game engine created by Bethesda Game Studios based on the Gamebryo engine. The Creation Engine has been used to create role-playing video games such as The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76. A new iteration of the engine, Creation Engine 2, was used to create Starfield. The Creation Engine has been tailor-made for large-scale open-world RPGs. > After using the Gamebryo engine to create The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivio... ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/168 "2015-09-07T16:40:36Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Or if on steam run a check integrity of game cache I’ll give that a go, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/169 "2015-09-07T21:23:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I don’t know why I read this stuff, with the game still two freaking months away. Arrrrgh. Keep it coming though - I’m unnaturally excited about this game for an (early) middle-aged man. I bought a PS4 in readiness last week (I know, it’ll be far inferior to the PC version, yadda yadda) so am now just biding my time… ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/170 "2015-09-08T01:19:04Z")
Just a fantasy: your character is prewar, but it takes place later, so cryogenics are speculated. Also, it says failing quests may lead to alternative routes. It would be interesting if you could also fail to obtain safety in the vault and the intermission would conclude with your character fully ghouled. I never had any bug trouble with New Vegas that I remember. But then if you think that Bethesda makes buggy games currently, then you haven’t played Daggerfall. Now they’re normal for making games of that size. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/171 "2015-09-08T17:53:32Z")
Well, New Vegas was put out by Obsidian, under agreement with Bethesda. Obsidian makes great games, but the bugginess of their games is also legendary. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/172 "2015-09-08T22:11:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > Well, New Vegas was put out by Obsidian, under agreement with Bethesda. Obsidian makes great games, but the bugginess of their games is also legendary. Amen to that. Then again, I’m convinced Bethsoft is actually worse. Both companies seem to think QA is something the customer does. And apparently both of them get away with it. I used to feel sorry for Obsidian on that point. (New Vegas was an inch away from netting them a big payment based on Metacritic score). Now I’m filled with cheery glee at their hardships. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/173 "2015-09-11T03:56:08Z")
They’re putting out videos focusing on the SPECIAL stats. [Here’s the first one on Strength](http://www.cnet.com/news/fallout-4-educational-video-explains-the-importance-of-being-strong/). But wait, if it’s a prewar video, why does it have Super Mutants in it? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/174 "2015-09-11T06:36:12Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > They’re putting out videos focusing on the SPECIAL stats. [Here’s the first one on Strength](http://www.cnet.com/news/fallout-4-educational-video-explains-the-importance-of-being-strong/). > > But wait, if it’s a prewar video, why does it have Super Mutants in it? :eek: There was that unfortunate accident when Serena Williams visited the nuclear power plant… ---
**Author:** ![IraqCombatVet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@IraqCombatVet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IraqCombatVet)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/175 "2015-09-14T06:59:16Z")
Not much longer till Fallout 4. About two months to go! I’ve already got two Pip Boy editions ordered. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/176 "2015-09-15T14:32:53Z")
> [@IraqCombatVet](#): > > Not much longer till Fallout 4. About two months to go! I’ve already got two Pip Boy editions ordered. So, what’s the plan? One for home and one for work? Gonna play two-fisted? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/177 "2015-09-19T12:14:08Z")
> [@Unpronounceable](#): > > supposedly: > > **Minimum System Requirements** > > Intel CPU Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz > > AMD GPU Radeon HD 7870 A little late to the thread but: HOLY CRAP!?!?!?!1?1! My i5-2500k is a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT now? I knew it wasn’t the latest and greatest, but I’m just not (financially) prepared for it to be a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT! I don’t want the performance that comes with minimum requirements, he whined. . . Oh well, at least my video. . . WHAT!?!?!? My 7850 doesn’t even make it to minimum requirements! HA-RUMPH I say! Crap. I ordered me a Pip-Boy edition and everything. This sucks! I wish everybody else was dead! ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/178 "2015-09-20T17:06:36Z")
Those are just the _rumored_ system requirements. AFAICT, they haven’t actually announced official ones yet. I’d guess they’re being a little paranoid after that Batman foul-up (first significantly increasing the system requirements AFTER the game release, then pulling it from sale when that still wasn’t enough to solve the problems.) A recent tweet: > [@](#): > > Dalmascus @dalmascus > @DCDeacon is nice that u revealed the season pass and all. But the pc spec’s would be better. Some of us are waiting to upgrade and be ready > > Pete Hines @DCDeacon > @dalmascus i understand, but we’re not going to give out incomplete or inaccurate info before we know. that’d be irresponsible. A different (and mostly lower) estimate was: OS: Windows Vista SP2 or Windows 7 or Windows 8 and above CPU: Intel Core i5-760 2.8GHz / Phenom II X4 970 RAM: 8 GB System Memory GPU VRAM: 2GB GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 or AMD Radeon R9 280 HDD: 28 GB Free Hard Drive Space DX: DirectX 11 ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/179 "2015-09-20T21:09:41Z")
Yikes. Still almost $400 for CPU and GPU. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450/180 "2015-09-20T23:45:36Z")
> [@Unpronounceable](#): > > Those are just the _rumored_ system requirements. AFAICT, they haven’t actually announced official ones yet. I’d guess they’re being a little paranoid after that Batman foul-up (first significantly increasing the system requirements AFTER the game release, then pulling it from sale when that still wasn’t enough to solve the problems.) > > A recent tweet: > > A different (and mostly lower) estimate was: > > OS: Windows Vista SP2 or Windows 7 or Windows 8 and above > CPU: Intel Core i5-760 2.8GHz / Phenom II X4 970 > RAM: 8 GB System Memory > GPU VRAM: 2GB > GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 or AMD Radeon R9 280 > HDD: 28 GB Free Hard Drive Space > DX: DirectX 11 That casts a slightly different light on things. By those specs, my CPU is well over minimum, but my GPU is still considerably under. Oh well, I was hoping to get another year out of my 7850. Maybe I still can. We shall see what we shall see. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-countdown/721450.md?page=10)