# Fallout 4 details **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 12, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193 "2013-12-12T19:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193/61 "2013-12-17T22:12:29Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I hope they bring back all of the “random” encounters that Fallout 3 had (They’re pre-timed but they feel random). Probably my biggest disappointment in New Vegas is that nothing seemed to be really going on out in the wasteland. One of my favorite moments in 3 was slowly sneaking up on a house in the middle of nowhere, when suddenly a guy on fire comes running around the corner being chase by raiders. Made me jump up out of my seat. There’s a bit of that in New Vegas - In my current playthrough (hardcore mode), I often run into raiders attacking caravans, Legion and NCR troops fighting each other, random people/groups being attacked by mutated animals and so on. As you say though, it’s not as lively as Fallout 3 in that regard, but it does happen. In regard to the lack of transportation: I think the official strategy guide for Fallout 2 said cars weren’t allowed in most towns because of (the very reasonable) concerns they might explode. I found myself wondering before, however- why aren’t there any bicycles? They’d be easy to make from salvaged (or even new) parts and they’d be a lot better than walking everywhere… ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193/62 "2013-12-18T16:02:39Z")
> [@Martini Enfield](#): > > I found myself wondering before, however- why aren’t there any bicycles? They’d be easy to make from salvaged (or even new) parts and they’d be a lot better than walking everywhere… Because you cannot look cool and post-apocalyptic while riding around on a bicycle. QED. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193/63 "2013-12-18T16:13:01Z")
[QUOTE=Martini Enfield] I found myself wondering before, however- why aren’t there any bicycles? They’d be easy to make from salvaged (or even new) parts and they’d be a lot better than walking everywhere… [/QUOTE] Well, besides the deterioration of roads, my WAG would be that the rubber for the pneumatic tires would have long since rotted away. I guess you COULD use some substitute for rubber, but it would be a pain in the ass, especially with the roads all tore up. Or, the folks who create these games simply don’t think bikes are cool or fit in with the whole post apocalypse world thingy. In the Dies the Fire books they use bicycles extensively to move large foot armies about, especially their long bowmen, so it’s something that has been thought of. Of course, this is only a few years after the end of the world, not decades or centuries, so… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193/64 "2013-12-18T16:16:06Z")
I can just see me tooling around on a bike in my power armor, with Raindrops Keep falling on my Head playing in my helmet. I stick out a middle finger as I whiz right on by a pack of Radscorpions. ---
**Author:** ![Garula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Garula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garula)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193/65 "2013-12-19T05:50:24Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Fallout took place in an alternate universe timeline (one where we went to war with China). Wasteland followed our timeline, though it was made before the Berlin wall fell. Which means rather than the Soviets going bankrupt, the world powers nuked the world in, if I remember correctly, 1998 after spending most of the previous decade pushing themselves to the brink of apocalypse. FO never left 1950’s culture. Wasteland split off our actual timeline much later than that. The Fallout timeline diverges from our own sometime after WW2, before the 1960s. The Great War happens in 2077. I wouldn’t say they never left 50s culture, but rather the world developed as would have been envisioned by 50s pop culture. Yeah, I’m being overly pedantic, but the Fallout world is one of my favorite settings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-details/676193.md?page=3)