# Fallout 4: Now Playing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [November 9, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122 "2015-11-09T18:01:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/101 "2015-11-11T23:44:48Z")

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> [@Unpronounceable](#):
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> You playing on PC? Because, yeah, there should be a lock and bobby pin.
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> Because that sounds kind of like the “invisible avatar” bug - sometimes the game glitches and doesn’t animate the character. Sometimes fixable by entering a conversation, sometimes fixable by a quicksave/quickload.

I am playing on PC. I’ll try the quicksave and reload next time. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/102 "2015-11-11T23:46:37Z")

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I hope I haven’t just been lucky, but I’ve gotten my hands on a relative abundance of fusion cores. Outside the water treatment plant, I found one “in-world” as well as four in an ammo box (so possibly randomized). I just got to Diamond City, and one of the vendors had four in stock. So it’s looking like they’re not a totally finite resource. I’ll have to be more liberal with my use of power armor; in hindsight, I probably should have taken it to the Corvega assembly plant.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/103 "2015-11-11T23:50:40Z")

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How is melee combat? Does it have any weight to it? Is there any sort of back and forth to it? Or are you basically running around punching like you have a gun that just happens to only have a range of 3 feet?

Is the dialogue as simplified/dumbed down/“cinematic” as it looks?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/104 "2015-11-12T00:15:05Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> But I’m kind of bothered about how it makes it basically impossible to define what the hell it was my character was before the bombs fell. I can’t already take any career-defining perks.

The male character is a military veteran, and the female character too, I think? You killed Commie scum for America! (Or Americanada). Explains away a lot of the “50s-style housewife removes a guy’s eyeballs with a tire iron 15 minutes after leaving shelter.”

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I know I’m a lousy cheater, but I often saved before hacking or lockpicking. In Fallout 3, I was locked out for a period if I saved before hacking a computer(and failed).
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> Did they do this or can I return to my cheating ways and save & hack away?

You can do the same where if you fail 3x, just quit and go back and you’ll have 4 again, with the words resetting. Same where you can hunt for duds and replenish by finding paired parentheses and brackets. Note the perks as well.

> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> How is melee combat? Does it have any weight to it? Is there any sort of back and forth to it? Or are you basically running around punching like you have a gun that just happens to only have a range of 3 feet?

There are perks which make it better (e.g. resist damage when sprinting, increase melee VATS range). Sadly you can’t target specific areas, which at least makes sense for some types.  
Guns can also bash.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/105 "2015-11-12T00:59:07Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> You can harvest any plants you place in your settlements for the components to make adhesive. They grow back every so often, and there are at least two farms where you can pick up plants. Just hold on to them until you get back to your settlement, then plant them.

Thanks for the tip, only just started to properly build up Sanctuary.

Incidentally I decided to go ahead with my collect all bobbleheads ASAP plan, [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBU4-ttGLHs) vid is the best guide on it I’ve found (all the others seem to say ‘it’s at such-and-such on a table’, without telling you where such-and-such is). At too early a level though you’ll get pasted in some of the locations, I’d recommend level 10+ minimum.

Also I’ve only just realised that your rad count takes down your maximum HP, herp derp. Was wondering where radiation sickness went.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/106 "2015-11-12T01:52:44Z")

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Here’s another supposed list of names, I suppose better sourced. I roll my eyes a bit at some of the names they picked given that they didn’t even include Sue:

[http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin](http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin)

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/107 "2015-11-12T02:12:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> Here’s another supposed list of names, I suppose better sourced. I roll my eyes a bit at some of the names they picked given that they didn’t even include Sue:
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> [http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin](http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin)

Markiepoo?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/108 "2015-11-12T02:40:32Z")

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Where is Bort?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/109 "2015-11-12T03:26:34Z")

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So, no matter what I do I can’t see what is going on for lock picking. And now it seems that the resolution has changed, on its own. And now I can’t seem to get an ideal look for the game. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Garula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Garula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garula)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/110 "2015-11-12T08:59:49Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> The male character is a military veteran, and the female character too, I think? You killed Commie scum for America! (Or Americanada). Explains away a lot of the “50s-style housewife removes a guy’s eyeballs with a tire iron 15 minutes after leaving shelter.”

I think it was mentioned offhandedly that the wife has a law degree. That may be because I gave her a lot of intelligence, though. I’m operating under the assumption the the army had a family day where family members had the chance to try out power armor, justifying why she knows how to operate the things without further training like the Lone Wanderer and Courier needed.

I’m enjoying it a fair bit so far. It’s Skyrim with guns, but there’s nothing wrong with that and it’s what I’m in the mood for. The shooting gameplay isn’t great, but it’s a definite step up from previous Bethesda titles. I wouldn’t play the game just for the shooting, but it’s fun enough to keep me entertained.

When I heard about the base building system, I had assumed it was just going to be a glorified, upgradeable, prefab homebase. Like, pay 1000 caps and this building appears, 2000 and that one appears, etc. What’s actually there is surprisingly compelling. I know that it’s mostly just cosmetic, but I really enjoying cleaning up my homebase area and plopping down the buildings. I’m particularly surprised at how robust the wiring options are. Bethesda games have always suffered from the feeling of having nothing to do with your loot once you accumulate it, and this is a pretty clever money sink. I can definitely see myself getting a wee bit obsessed building a huge settlement.

In short, it’s flawed but good.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/111 "2015-11-12T10:27:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I know I’m a lousy cheater, but I often saved before hacking or lockpicking. In Fallout 3, I was locked out for a period if I saved before hacking a computer(and failed).
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> Did they do this or can I return to my cheating ways and save & hack away?

No reason to “cheat” since bobby pins are super plentiful (if you’re careful you don’t need to break that many anyway), and for hacking terminals you do get locked out after 4 wrong guesses but only for 10 seconds. Takes longer than that to re-load the game anyway.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/112 "2015-11-12T11:42:29Z")

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I watched a stream and it looked like the dialogue system allows no choices at all, at least in what I saw. You get four slightly different pieces of dialogue on the way to the same end.

“Hi there. Would you like to be my friend and help me rescue my sister?”  
A) Sarcastic B) Sure C) What’s a sister? D) No way  
Select D  
“Fuck your sister. I want her to die.”  
“Well, great, thanks for the help. She’s in that building over there being held hostage. Thank you for offering your help. Bring her back here when you save her.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/113 "2015-11-12T12:07:45Z")

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I’m not far enough in to have an idea of what impacts decisions make, but since I’m playing a more-or-less goodhearted guy this time around (he’s a prewar family man, after all), I haven’t been bothered by the apparent lack of meaningful “fuck off” options yet.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/114 "2015-11-12T13:49:51Z")

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I’m thinking of getting this. Should I get it for the Xbox One and use controller or my PC (it can run it on ultra everything) with kb/m?

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/115 "2015-11-12T14:13:50Z")

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I noticed someone mention stuttering. One thing I have seen mentioned a lot if that running the game in borderless window mode can help with this. You choose this in the options in the launcher - but remember to reset your resolution as it has a tendency to change it.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/116 "2015-11-12T14:16:09Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I’m thinking of getting this. Should I get it for the Xbox One and use controller or my PC (it can run it on ultra everything) with kb/m?

How much do you value the sofa/big screen? As those are the only advantages of the Xbox One version. Also, it has been found to have some terrible frame dropping on only the Xbox One.

See here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ)

Apparently using an SSD helps and it may be patched to help, but it is definitely worth thinking about.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/117 "2015-11-12T14:34:19Z")

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Given the choice between the Xbox and a PC, I’d go with the PC.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/118 "2015-11-12T14:37:42Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I’m thinking of getting this. Should I get it for the Xbox One and use controller or my PC (it can run it on ultra everything) with kb/m?

Why would you even consider the xbone?

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/119 "2015-11-12T14:41:01Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I’m thinking of getting this. Should I get it for the Xbox One and use controller or my PC (it can run it on ultra everything) with kb/m?

Not sure why you’d even consider the console version at this point, especially the xbone version with it’s 0 FPS for seconds at a time issues.

If “comfy couch” experience is important to you (and you don’t already have a something liek a small form factor PC or HTPC hooked up to your TV), I’d recommend investing on a $40 Steam link, specially if you’ve already got a powerhouse PC somewhere in your house.

You can use a gamepad on the PC version too if you want.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-4-now-playing/737122/120 "2015-11-12T14:43:18Z")

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Currently ordering a used CPU for my 5 year-old mobo so I can meet the minimum requirements…

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