# Fallout: New Vegas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 9, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877 "2010-03-09T17:19:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/41 "2010-05-31T06:33:42Z")

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I’m FOR realism in games like Fallout 3. My favorite part of playing Fallout was wandering through the desert, low on ammunition and supplies, wondering where I’d get my next meal… despite food not being a requirement. 😛 A dehydration/hunger meter would be awesome. Then again, I’m also one of the people who loved GTA IV’s realism and hopes for more.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/42 "2010-05-31T22:36:10Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> GTA IV’s realism

What on earth are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/43 "2010-06-01T03:47:38Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> What on earth are you talking about?

GTAIV was the most realistic of the series. Open up Google and type it in and you’ll get page after page of people complaining that it was too realistic. I’ve seen that complaint on this very board.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/44 "2010-06-01T06:00:10Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> GTAIV was the most realistic of the series. Open up Google and type it in and you’ll get page after page of people complaining that it was too realistic. I’ve seen that complaint on this very board.

Maybe it’s just that I didn’t play the earlier iterations, but I just finished the Episodes add-ons and somehow stealing a moving subway car with a Sikorsky Skycrane doesn’t seem very realistic to me.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/45 "2010-06-01T06:16:12Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Maybe it’s just that I didn’t play the earlier iterations, but I just finished the Episodes add-ons and somehow stealing a moving subway car with a Sikorsky Skycrane doesn’t seem very realistic to me.

I’m not talking about the expansions which were a return to tradition in that respect.

Go play the previous games, take a look at the way vehicles and weapons behave, the way damage is handled, the missions and the plots- flying bombs around on remote-controlled airplanes, hijacking tanks on the beach, etc. GTA IV really is the most realistic in the series and believe it or not, it takes a lot of flak for it. Have you ever played Saints Row? It’s nothing but mission after mission of the protagonist performing feats that completely shatter any suspension of belief- I’m talking you putting on a foam hand (like you’d see at sporting events) and smacking a person thirty feet through the air with it. There are people who think that GTA should be more like Saints Row. I, for one, enjoy the step towards realism.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/46 "2010-06-01T06:26:48Z")

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I’ll have to just take your word for it. I still think that, for example, robbing a bank, shooting a couple dozen cops as I make my getaway, the cops wouldn’t just stop looking for me just because I managed to evade their line of sight for a minute. 🙂 Especially when they’re watching me two minutes later driving through Star Junction in the NOOSE Hummer I liberated.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/47 "2010-06-01T06:36:12Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> I’ll have to just take your word for it. I still think that, for example, robbing a bank, shooting a couple dozen cops as I make my getaway, the cops wouldn’t just stop looking for me just because I managed to evade their line of sight for a minute. 🙂 Especially when they’re watching me two minutes later driving through Star Junction in the NOOSE Hummer I liberated.

Again, unrealistic, but still more realistic than the other games in the series. 😉 And it’s a trend that many regard suspiciously.

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**Author:** ![moldybread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@moldybread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moldybread)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/48 "2010-06-01T15:51:57Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Sorry, I didn’t mean to raise your hopes up. I was just saying that they _should_ put it in. Unfortunately, Obsidian Entertainment and “fucking awesome” tend to be mutually exclusive.

No worries. It would be cool to see though. Imagine squishing mutant heads with a dune buggy. Or trying to run down a super mutant and flying through the windshield as you go 60 to 0 instantly. ugh forward momentum!

Is there an exact date of release yet? I had’nt looked as of late.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/49 "2010-07-10T02:31:08Z")

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Steam recently added New Vegas to their preorder list, with a release date of 19 October.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/50 "2010-07-10T14:23:46Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Steam recently added New Vegas to their preorder list, with a release date of 19 October.

October 19th? I can’t wait that long. Will anybody help me bury myself in a snowdrift so I can cryogenically sleep until Oct 19th?

Oh, yeah 95 degrees outside. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/51 "2010-09-02T22:54:20Z")

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Any idea as to the system requirements for this one? I’m assuming that it’s gonna be very similar to Fallout 3, what with being built with pretty much exactly the same engine. What’s worrying me is the HDD space, of which I’ve got barely any. Fallout 3 currently occupies 9.72 GB of space, but that’s with a million mods and all the DLCs. I’m assuming that NV will therefore take up less.

However, you know what they say about assuming…any ideas or insights? I really want this on the PC rather than the 360, for myriad reasons.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/52 "2010-09-02T23:17:01Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> I loved Fallout 3 and all the DLCs, but it got annoying when I hit level 20 about halfway through and had godlike powers and weapons. I was very excited to see the Hardcore mode for New Vegas. I will be playing it in this mode the first time around.

Yup, I finished the main story, The Pit, and Point Lookout and stuck at level 30 I just stopped playing. Everything I care about is maxed out and the only creatures that give me trouble are the albino Rad Scorpions (which take 30 plus shotgun shells to the face to take down) and the next level Super Mutants (which are impervious to getting shot in the face).

The game is great, there is still stuff for me to see and do but without getting any experience for anything I just feel like I’m wasting precious ammo every time I play.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/53 "2010-09-03T16:16:29Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> Any idea as to the system requirements for this one? I’m assuming that it’s gonna be very similar to Fallout 3, what with being built with pretty much exactly the same engine. What’s worrying me is the HDD space, of which I’ve got barely any. Fallout 3 currently occupies 9.72 GB of space, but that’s with a million mods and all the DLCs. I’m assuming that NV will therefore take up less.
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> However, you know what they say about assuming…any ideas or insights? I really want this on the PC rather than the 360, for myriad reasons.

The interwebs say 7 gigs. HD space is pretty cheap now a days. New egg was selling 1 TB for $55 the other day.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/54 "2010-09-06T14:12:53Z")

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Y;know, I was thinking about a car the other day and I’m flat not sure it can even work with the bethsoft-provided engine. It just wasn’t designed for that. While I’m sure New Vegas is fairly flat in spots, looking at how objects interact and mvoe with each other, I think vehicles would be crazy flipping every second. You’d have the thing turned on its back in seconds.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/55 "2010-09-06T21:02:20Z")

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We need a RPG with Sims-like realism, where there are not only thirst/hunger meters, but also “uh oh, you didn’t take 3 minutes out for a bowel movement this morning. Moderate urgency (+5 from Nuka Cola consumption)=-5% dexterity.” “One hour’s gone by. Pee break! Not in the middle of town square! -5% concentration!” “Blister! Movement limited!”

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**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/56 "2010-09-07T01:56:34Z")

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> [@capybara](#):
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> We need a RPG with Sims-like realism, where there are not only thirst/hunger meters, but also “uh oh, you didn’t take 3 minutes out for a bowel movement this morning. Moderate urgency (+5 from Nuka Cola consumption)=-5% dexterity.” “One hour’s gone by. Pee break! Not in the middle of town square! -5% concentration!” “Blister! Movement limited!”

I’d unironically play a game like that, if they didn’t actually interrupt the gameplay to give you those messages (you could have a Survival Log window that you could open if you were interested). Just the thought of having to find places to pee in an RPG tickles me for some reason. They could add a Desecration option, and you could pee in the shrine of some random God you don’t like.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/531877/57 "2010-09-07T03:02:17Z")

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> [@Windwalker](#):
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> They could add a Desecration option, and you could pee in the shrine of some random God you don’t like.

And that would summon Asmodeous or Juiblex?

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