# Fallout New Vegas. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 25, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300 "2010-10-25T16:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/321 "2011-11-27T03:15:22Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Just one more thing. You seem quite balanced actually compared to how I started the game. Bear in mind that the higher your intelligence, the more skill points you get to distribute when you level up, and the higher endurance you have the more Hit Points you get when you level up. And as I understand it, the higher your endurance the more stat-boosting implants you can get. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/322 "2011-11-27T03:44:12Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Too far? Nah. You’re going to have a hell of a fun time playing the way you want and creating the character you want. > > Everyone gets their ass handed to them on a silver platter from time to time and I think that a challenging game is a more enjoyable one, especially with a sandbox like this one because there are so many different ways to accomplish the same things. Enjoy! > > PS I 'm playing it as we speak. 😛 > [@xtisme](#): > > Naw, you should be fine as long as you don’t try and run a tank type player. The cool thing about the game is that it can accommodate lots of different play styles since there are many ways to go through. I’d suggest going the stealth route with rifles…with that build and the perks for stealth and snipe it’s pretty powerful, especially if you get one of the heavy hitter npcs. > > There are some mods I listed in one of these threads for sniper rifles and a ghilliy suit that you should check out as well. Plus the mod for an underground vault of your own…a must have IMHO. > > -XT Meant to reply earlier yesterday, but uh…yeah, so there’s this game I’ve been playing. Point above are right on…I am playing the game from the beginning the way that I evolved into playing F3 towards the end. Standoff and sneak…and yes, having a blast. I wonder how much longer it will take me since I basically crouch-run everywhere I go. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/323 "2011-11-30T05:35:28Z")
Help please. I’m spending these last few weeks sucking the last of the marrow out of this game until I get my Christmas present (fingers crossed for Skyrim). To that end, I’m trying to get at least one of each and every possible perfect condition weapon/clothing in the game and all its expansion packs. This includes all the modifications for weapons too. In some cases it’s impossible because some weapons are only given for completing a mission one way, and an alternate weapon is given if you complete it another way, so what I’m going for is all the _possible_ weapons etc that I _can_ get. Surprisingly, there’s only a few I can’t get, and of all the ones that I can get, I have them all now…except the Zap Glove. I’ve been searching for this item (I have its big brother the Paladin Toaster already) for at least two weeks (real world time), and from what I’ve read on-line it is available from various vendors, but none of them seem to be selling it! I know it’s available at the Brotherhood hidden bunker, but only the scribes carry it. I tried to pickpocket/sneak-kill the scribes but that always ends up with the whole damn bunker gunning for me, even if no-one saw me kill them! (no fair). I’d really prefer not to have to kill the whole Brotherhood just to get my Zap Glove. And since none of the vendors seem to be selling it (I can’t count the hours I’ve spent on the couch hitting “wait”, “24 hrs”, “wait”, “24 hrs”, “wait”, “24 hrs” check “wait”, “24 hrs”, “wait”, “24 hrs”, “wait”, “24 hrs” check…), my only hope is that it’s a lootable item hidden in a cave or a box somewhere. Does anyone know where the Zap Glove can be found? PS. I’m on a PS3 so no cheats or mods available. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/324 "2011-11-30T09:41:06Z")
Have you had a look at the Fallout Wikia? That’s got pretty much everything you could ever want to know about the _Fallout_ games on it, and I daresay what you’re seeking will be there. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/325 "2011-11-30T10:48:11Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Have you had a look at the Fallout Wikia? That’s got pretty much everything you could ever want to know about the _Fallout_ games on it, and I daresay what you’re seeking will be there. Thanks **Martini** , and yes that site is always my first port of call. Which is distressing in this situation because all of the available locations they list are all vendors (apart from the Brotherhood bunker). And I’ve been to all of them. Repeatedly. I’m basically camped out in front of their stores. I’ll keep trying though - maybe I’ve just had bad luck. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/326 "2011-11-30T11:59:04Z")
There is another option… It’s arguably cheating, but you could use console commands to simply “give” yourself the item. I know it’s not the same thing as finding/purchasing it “in-game”, but it sounds to me like you’ve made a good faith effort to acquire the item “properly” so personally I don’t think many people would hold it against you if you decided to take that option… ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/327 "2011-11-30T12:10:00Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > There is another option… It’s arguably cheating, but you could use console commands to simply “give” yourself the item. > > I know it’s not the same thing as finding/purchasing it “in-game”, but it sounds to me like you’ve made a good faith effort to acquire the item “properly” so personally I don’t think many people would hold it against you if you decided to take that option… 🙂 Thanks **M** but my whole game, from start to finish has been pure as the driven vanilla. I’m playing it on the PS3 so no cheats, no mods. It’s not an option you can choose. Not that I’m against mods at all as I played Oblivion with mods and found it vastly superior to the game as-packaged. But that was on the PC. No, I want to finish this one as it was sold. Call me stubborn 😛 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/328 "2011-11-30T17:09:14Z")
A quick google suggests vendors restock every 3, maybe 4 days. Maybe save and rest? If you’re playing hardcore, it might be trickier and take a snack break. And if they don’t have what you’d like, I imagine loading and trying again will give a new set of items. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/329 "2011-12-01T02:11:55Z")
After another fruitless night of shopping and waiting and shopping and waiting, I’ve decided I’m going to slaughter the Brotherhood. God have mercy on my soul. I’ve equipped myself with all I need to get the job done. It’s indoor combat down in the Hidden Bunker, so projectile explosives are counter-productive; I’ll need Fist of Rawr, C-4, plasma mines, a few Stealth Boys, the Ranger Sequoia (armor piercing rounds) and the Big Boomer shotgun (slugs). I’ve saved my game just in front of the entrance to the bunker, and tonight I’m going in. No one is coming out of there alive except me and my Zap Glove. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/330 "2011-12-01T03:30:54Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > After another fruitless night of shopping and waiting and shopping and waiting, I’ve decided I’m going to slaughter the Brotherhood. God have mercy on my soul. > > I’ve equipped myself with all I need to get the job done. It’s indoor combat down in the Hidden Bunker, so projectile explosives are counter-productive; I’ll need Fist of Rawr, C-4, plasma mines, a few Stealth Boys, the Ranger Sequoia (armor piercing rounds) and the Big Boomer shotgun (slugs). > > I’ve saved my game just in front of the entrance to the bunker, and tonight I’m going in. No one is coming out of there alive except me and my Zap Glove. Hacking Ramos’s terminal ahead of time makes the task a lot easier, as I’m sure you know. For whatever reason, IMO the ordinary sniper rifle with AP rounds took down paladins a lot faster than anything else I was using (didn’t have a plasma caster). They fly hilariously far though when you head shot them with either the YCS or the AM rifle. Good hunting. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/331 "2011-12-01T04:24:35Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Hacking Ramos’s terminal ahead of time makes the task a lot easier, as I’m sure you know. For whatever reason, IMO the ordinary sniper rifle with AP rounds took down paladins a lot faster than anything else I was using (didn’t have a plasma caster). They fly hilariously far though when you head shot them with either the YCS or the AM rifle. > > Good hunting. Thanks! So would hacking the terminal shut down the gun turrets? I was going to place a C-4 down by all of them in advance before commencing the attack (since they are all on the same level) and blow them all up simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/332 "2011-12-01T10:00:25Z")
Hokay, here’s a brotip. Bloody Mess + Meltdown + Specced-out Holorifle = Very interesting way to commit suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/333 "2011-12-01T13:54:25Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Thanks! So would hacking the terminal shut down the gun turrets? I was going to place a C-4 down by all of them in advance before commencing the attack (since they are all on the same level) and blow them all up simultaneously. The Vault wiki goes into all of this (and pretty much everything else you can do in the game) but what hacking his terminal does is to tell each turret to engage anything wearing Brotherhood armor. I hope your powered armor is non-faction… Never got any of the DLC, so never got the Holorifle. From your guys’ descriptions of them, they frankly don’t sound worth the money. I’ve heard about some of the _interesting_ ways to die from Meltdown though. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/334 "2011-12-01T14:42:34Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > The Vault wiki goes into all of this (and pretty much everything else you can do in the game) but what hacking his terminal does is to tell each turret to engage anything wearing Brotherhood armor. I hope your powered armor is non-faction… > > Never got any of the DLC, so never got the Holorifle. From your guys’ descriptions of them, they frankly don’t sound worth the money. I’ve heard about some of the _interesting_ ways to die from Meltdown though. Some of the DLCs were actually quite fun, while others were a slog (though you still come out with some cool weapons and items). Old World Blues is worth getting, if nothing else. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/335 "2011-12-01T20:50:35Z")
Old World Blues was a blast (I still have to finish clearing out the Big MT). It’s classic fallout - silliness overlaid over the post apocolyptic horror. And personally I loved Dead Money to utter bits, though a few people I know weren’t fans of it. That said, I didn’t pay money so, you know - YMMV 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/336 "2011-12-01T21:47:20Z")
Thirding Old World Blues. Excellent DLC pack. It’s the only one of the four I would recommend without reservation. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/337 "2011-12-02T10:28:16Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Thirding Old World Blues. Excellent DLC pack. It’s the only one of the four I would recommend without reservation. … For Science! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/338 "2011-12-02T17:19:50Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Thirding Old World Blues. Excellent DLC pack. It’s the only one of the four I would recommend without reservation. Really? What was the downside to Honest Hearts? (HH is the only DLC I have for FNV.) I kinda liked it… ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/339 "2011-12-02T17:34:10Z")
The criticism I’ve heard for most of the DLCs is they are kind of linear without the open world feel of the rest of the game. I actually liked Honest Hearts as well, though OWB was the best of the DLCs, IMHO. The only DLC I didn’t really care for was Dead Money…I especially dislike that I can’t go back there and get items I missed (like the upgrades for the holorifle that I missed). My Dead Money trophy wall is sadly bare of all but a few weapons (at some point I need to upgrade my vault to the latest mod so that I can get a Old World Blues wall and a Lonesome Road wall as well). -XT ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300/340 "2011-12-04T04:40:06Z")
Honest Hearts was a pretty environment, but the missions were kind of unremarkable and the the gameplay was pretty short. I think we were also meant to have built up some kind of empathy for the Sorrows, but the story wasn’t handled very well and I didn’t end up giving a toss about them. Maybe that was just me though. Old World Blues is without question the best DLC. Many missions, interesting physical gameplace, a great sense of humor, excellent NPC’s and long gameplay. Second best for me was Lonesome Road, then Honest Hearts and then Dead Money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-new-vegas/558300.md?page=18)