# Falwell-haters, guess who is picketing what!

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**Created:** [May 17, 2007, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432 "2007-05-17T11:52:39Z")\
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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
\When Phelps went on-line in 1999 he declared damn near everybody in the entire universe a “fag enabler.” The Kults definition of the term seems to be anyone who does not put down homosexuality 24/7/366. Some of us have to work  
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**Breaking News**  
**Phelps to picket own funeral**

Fred Phelps, pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church, announced today that he would picket his own funeral “Death is no excuse in the fight against sin, dying will make me a fag enabler, I deserve to burn in hell”.  
Phelps’ family agreed, “Dad is so right, in fact the time our family wastes eating and sleeping instead of picketing is a sin too. Guess we’re all gonna go to hell”.

**Update**  
**Westboro Baptist Church implodes after bubble of self-righteousness bursts**

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/42 "2007-05-18T02:09:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
My biggest “cause” is musical theatre, and then there’s my sister the lesbian.

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Have you ever thought of combining the two by writing _MY SISTER THE LESBIAN: THE MUSICAL_? I’m seeing “Liza Minnelli’s come back!” and “Jodie Foster SINGS!” in great big lights.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/43 "2007-05-18T02:43:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Sampiro]  
Have you ever thought of combining the two by writing _MY SISTER THE LESBIAN: THE MUSICAL_? I’m seeing “Liza Minnelli’s come back!” and “Jodie Foster SINGS!” in great big lights.  
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Waitagoddam minute… Jodie _sings???_ :eek:

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/44 "2007-05-18T09:25:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Nancarrow]  
Jesus had long hair. He wouldn’t even have a chance to open his mouth.  
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Maybe Phelps will start a GodHatesJesus website.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/45 "2007-05-18T13:39:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Maybe Phelps will start a GodHatesJesus website.  
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Exhibit A: Sent him to Earth for the express purpose of being beaten to a bloody pulp and nailed to a stake.

I’ll buy it.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/46 "2007-05-18T14:26:26Z")

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Not to mention He was a God-forsaken Jew.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/47 "2007-05-18T15:32:06Z")

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I did click on the link. The passage is a long rant, but observe this passage:

> [@Reverend Phelps](#):
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> Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. BANG! 15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Didja catch that? BANG!

Daniel

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/48 "2007-05-18T15:39:08Z")

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These are the things that make me so happy that I am an atheist.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/49 "2007-05-18T15:48:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Picketing funerals is the LEAST of Fred’s crimes. [Observe.](http://blank.org/addict/)  
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I’ve read that before but reading it still brings tears to my eyes. There aren’t many people I pity more than Phelps’ children. I’ve met (briefly) a couple of his daughters. They are genuinely messed. I’ve seen the way Phelps acts in person. It completely jibes with this article - he loves being the center of attention. He just eats it up.

A terrible story all around.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/50 "2007-05-18T16:02:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
As mentioned in the other Falwell thread, Phelps declared Falwell a “fag enabler” back in 1999.  
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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
How is the guy who outed Tinky-Winky a “fag enabler?”  
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Well, in all fairness, Phelps felt betrayed when Falwell refused to back his Mandatory Death Penalty For Fags initiative.

[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
I just worry that Phelps picketing Falwell’s funeral is going to disturb the fabric of existence, creating some sort of a black hole of absurdity, and the universe will disappear up its own ass.  
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There are those who contend that this _has already happened!_ :eek:

OK, seriously now …  
[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
What if people in Phelp’s cult could develop friendships with people in other churches? What if members of Phelp’s cult could walk down the street without people (metaphorically) spitting on them? These pickets are done so that everyone in the church is completely isolated from the outside world. EVERYONE hates Westboro Baptist Church, there is literally not a single other church in the entire world that regards them as anything other than nutters, and vice-versa.  
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Hmmm. I wonder what would happen if a good Christian were determined to break through Fred’s control. I mean, really determined, to the point of putting up with whatever evil they could rain down on him. The real turn-the-other-cheek Believer who just would not give up, no matter what.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/51 "2007-05-18T16:25:38Z")

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Right after Falwell’s death, I happened to be watching the news where they were getting reactions from various famous people, and I heard Rev. Jesse Jackson say that Jerry Falwell had a “heart of gold.”

I didn’t pay close enough attention to Jerry Falwell to be able to give an informed opinion of the guy, but with an endorsement like that, I’m willing to concede that at least he wasn’t Evil Incarnate. Phelps, on the other hand…

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/52 "2007-05-18T16:34:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Mbossa]  
Does anyone else picture a “fag enabler” as some kind of robot? I’m thinking of one of those old-school robots with wheels and a bulbous glass head and flailing arms with hooks on the end. It’s called the “FAGOMATIX 2000” and its job is to patrol the streets for deactivated fags.

_beep beep_  
“FAG DETECTED. DETERMINING STATUS.”  
“FAG CURRENTLY DISABLED. APPROACHING.”  
“DISABLED FAG IN RANGE. ENABLING…”  
_click\*\*whirr_ _beep_ _woof_ _clunk_ _honk_ _rowr_  
“FAG ENABLED.”  
“Oh thank you kind robot! I’ve been standing there for days waiting for somebody to enable me! Finally, I can get back to buying shoes and worshipping Satan!”  
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Okay, _this_ made me laugh. 😛🙂

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/53 "2007-05-18T16:52:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
Right after Falwell’s death, I happened to be watching the news where they were getting reactions from various famous people, and I heard Rev. Jesse Jackson say that Jerry Falwell had a “heart of gold.”  
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Yeah, cold and hard.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/54 "2007-05-18T17:28:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> EVERYONE hates Westboro Baptist Church, there is literally not a single other church in the entire world that regards them as anything other than nutters, and vice-versa.

Even the Ku Klux Klan has publically denounced the WBC.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/55 "2007-05-18T17:32:40Z")

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I’ve been watching the linked “Most Hated Family” vid, dear Og, i had no idea that the phelpsdrones were that indoctrinated, brainwashed to the extent that they are…

the poor kids, mindlessly parroting the cult’s words of hate

the footage with the Prime Demon Itself (freddy phelps) was quite unnerving, i could feel the evil pouring off him, and this was from a poorly digitized streaming video, no less

there’s no doubt in my mind that the WBC _IS_ a cult, a very dangerous cult…

what would solve the problem with the cult once and for all is if the USAF “accidentally misplaces” a MOAB bomb, directly over their compound…

actually, the cult should just be infiltrated and disrupted from within, send the Prime Demon and his minions to the Straight-Bar-Motel, and try to deprogram the kids

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/56 "2007-05-18T18:09:45Z")

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[QUOTE=MacTech]  
actually, the cult should just be infiltrated and disrupted from within  
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Good luck with that. Don’t forget to write!

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/57 "2007-05-18T18:22:59Z")

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Yeah, “infiltrating” the cult isn’t exactly going to work. The cult is an extended family. You can’t join the cult without joining the family. The cult isn’t trying to recruit new members like conventional cults, there’s no desire for new members except by birth. Again, actions of the church that seem bizarre and pointless are actually quite logical when you consider that they’ve got nothing to do with the outside world and everything to do with controlling the cult itself.

The anti-American picketing is purposefully designed to isolate the church from mainstream fundamentalist whacko churches, because if the kids could be friends with or go to church with all the other fag-hating bible-thumpers in America then Phelps would lose control over them. It has nothing to do with theology.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/58 "2007-05-18T19:07:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]  
Good luck with that. Don’t forget to write!  
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Naah, i have a more effective strategy for dealing with WBC’ers…

Ignore them, they thrive on any form of attention, good or bad, depriving them of attention really pisses them off

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/59 "2007-05-18T20:03:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
Right after Falwell’s death, I happened to be watching the news where they were getting reactions from various famous people, and I heard Rev. Jesse Jackson say that Jerry Falwell had a “heart of gold.”

I didn’t pay close enough attention to Jerry Falwell to be able to give an informed opinion of the guy, but with an endorsement like that, I’m willing to concede that at least he wasn’t Evil Incarnate. Phelps, on the other hand…  
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The difference is, Phelps is Mostly Harmless, because almost nobody has ever taken him seriously. Falwell, OTOH . . .

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/falwell-haters-guess-who-is-picketing-what/404432/60 "2007-05-18T20:06:28Z")

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[QUOTE=MacTech]  
Naah, i have a more effective strategy for dealing with WBC’ers…

Ignore them, they thrive on any form of attention, good or bad, depriving them of attention really pisses them off  
[/QUOTE]

Except the rank and file aren’t out for “attention”. And Phelps himself doesn’t want attention, he wants control over his cult. Lack of bad attention would only piss him off if it meant his cult members weren’t so isolated.

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