# Family Guy last night - (The Shark was not just jumped but bloody well leaped)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328 "2009-03-30T16:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/81 "2009-04-02T04:31:25Z")

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Them (Us? I’m a piss-poor Lutheran), too.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/82 "2009-04-02T05:03:04Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Them (Us? I’m a piss-poor Lutheran), too.

Catholics.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/83 "2009-04-02T06:35:19Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> Maybe some people regard their religion as a private matter. Maybe some simply don’t have a religion (and no, that’s not the same as being atheist or agnostic).

:rolleyes: Yes, not having religion is quite the same as being an atheist, despite what weird contortions religious people preach about the matter. A-THEIST. Not a theist. Religious people have tried to make atheism a religion as an argumentative entanglement, but it’s not, and none of us would be interested in religion at all if they hadn’t made it up in the first place, or would just shut the hell up about it.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/84 "2009-04-02T07:15:01Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> :rolleyes: Yes, not having religion is quite the same as being an atheist, despite what weird contortions religious people preach about the matter.

No, it is not. Not having religion is being nonreligious. Disbelieving in God or gods is being an atheist. It is possible simultaneously not to have a religion and not to disbelieve in a god. Lack of religion does not equal atheism any more than an eyeroll equals an argument.

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> A-THEIST. Not a theist.

“Atheist” comes via French from the Greek _atheos_. It was not formed by tacking a prefix onto the English word “theist.”

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> Religious people have tried to make atheism a religion as an argumentative entanglement, but it’s not, and none of us would be interested in religion at all if they hadn’t made it up in the first place, or would just shut the hell up about it.

Nowhere in this thread (or anywhere else, for that matter), have I said or implied that atheism is a religion.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/85 "2009-04-02T10:53:48Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> “Atheist” comes via French from the Greek _atheos_.

You mean _atheos_ as in _a-theos_?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/86 "2009-04-02T12:01:39Z")

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Family Guy often mis-fires with their cultural references. Whatever film, TV show or celebrity the writers don’t like is depicted as the worst thing in the world, because they know better than we do and we should all share their opinions.  
They should stop doing these references but evidently they’ve become emboldened to now give their take on religion.

But still, I would say the karma evens out after the atheist-bashing [Go God Go](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_God_Go) episode of south park. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/87 "2009-04-02T17:20:47Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> You mean _atheos_ as in _a-theos_?

Yeah, like agnostic derives from agnōstos, but that doesn’t prove that everyone in the world is either gnostic or agnostic because AGNOSTIC=A+GNOSTIC, i.e., not a gnostic. Etymology doesn’t work that way.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/88 "2009-04-03T10:41:53Z")

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Is it OK that I found it all quite funny?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/89 "2009-04-03T11:23:49Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Is it OK that I found it all quite funny?

No, it’s not OK. Regardless of whether or not you found it offensive, it most definitely was not funny. 😉

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-guy-last-night-the-shark-was-not-just-jumped-but-bloody-well-leaped/491328/90 "2009-04-03T12:04:31Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> No, it’s not OK. Regardless of whether or not you found it offensive, it most definitely was not funny. 😉

Must have been Kanicbird’s demons getting to me.

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