# Family says "Thank You" to Ft. Hood Shooter

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 11, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540 "2010-02-11T08:41:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/1 "2010-02-11T08:41:28Z")

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Yes, you read that right. A family in Houston have gone on the record to say, essentially, that they are thankful that Nadal Hassan shot their daughter three times. The daughter agrees with this sentiment. [Video here](http://www.khou.com/news/Family-of-Fort-Hood-Shooting-Victim-Says-Thank-You-to-Gunman-83982057.html?hpt=T2).

Why?

Because being laid up in the hospital prevented her from being deployed, and thus being separated from her fiance. Now that she’s not going anywhere for a while, they can be a happy married couple. “I guess I wasn’t meant to be deployed,” the wounded soldier says.

WHAT THE FUCK? This strikes me as the height of arrogance and insensitivity, and to say it just three months after the tragedy only tears open the barely-closed wounds for the families whose sons and daughters died by the hand of this prick.

Because everything worked out for YOU, young lady, doesn’t give you the right to thank the shooter. Sure, acknowledge that it turned out positive in your case, but don’t _thank_ the guy!:smack:

I’m the grandson of an Nazi concentration camp survivor. Do I \*thank \*Hitler for exterminating 6 million Jews just so I could be born? No, I acknowledge it worked out for me, but I don’t _thank_ Hitler. Maybe everyone who met someone on 9/11 and became friends with them should thank those hijackers. Nevermind the loss of 3000+ lives.

Going out of your way (it’s on the news with their participation) to _thank_ someone whose actions killed, what, 13 people and devastated hundreds more is beyond selfish, beyond narcissistic. I don’t have the words for it.:mad:

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/2 "2010-02-11T11:29:56Z")

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Yeah. I saw that earlier. Bizarre. It almost seemed like that were playing the “Well I’ll show HIM” game to rub it in his face that he didn’t negatively affect their lives.

It came across like a fucknugget slapsandwhich.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/3 "2010-02-11T11:31:19Z")

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That’s messed up.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/4 "2010-02-11T11:33:05Z")

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That’s one kill he should have confirmed.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/5 "2010-02-11T12:18:09Z")

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Moving thread from IMHO to The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/6 "2010-02-11T12:21:03Z")

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Agreed. Fuck anyone who can find a way to turn their personal tragedy into something positive. Fuck them in their half-full ass.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/7 "2010-02-11T12:40:49Z")

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OMG! Where’s the hate? WHERE IS THE HATE!!!

What is wrong with people that they can’t heap scorn and swear vengence on the crazy, fucked-up guy who shot them and/or their family? Where is the foam-flecked invection? The teeth baring, bulging eye’d rage?

Thank you? THANK YOU!!! The terrorist have truly won.

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**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/8 "2010-02-11T12:53:09Z")

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> [@statsman1982](#):
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> Because being laid up in the hospital prevented her from being deployed, and thus being separated from her fiance. Now that she’s not going anywhere for a while, they can be a happy married couple. “I guess I wasn’t meant to be deployed,” the wounded soldier says.

You missed the [second part of her statement](http://www.khou.com/news/Family-of-Fort-Hood-Shooting-Victim-Says-Thank-You-to-Gunman-83982057.html) that made it even more appalling:

[QUOTE=SPC Dayna Ferguson Roscoe]  
I wasn’t meant to deploy, so something stopped it.  
[/QUOTE]

And, of course, SPC Roscoe’s father:

[QUOTE=Jim Ferguson]  
I would like to personally thank, what’s the man’s name? Nidal, or whoever the shooter is. I would like to thank him for bringing all of this positivity into our life.  
[/QUOTE]

The epitome of the self-centered concept that everything happens for a reason.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/9 "2010-02-11T13:05:04Z")

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Breaking news… Human shows signs of selfish reasoning!!! Update at 11pm.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/10 "2010-02-11T13:12:39Z")

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I can’t watch videos but my heart wants to side with this soldier. Then again, I want all of our soldiers home.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/11 "2010-02-11T13:15:46Z")

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Ok, the whole thanking thing is strange, but nothing wrong with turning something very negative into something positive.

> [@](#):
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> That’s one kill he should have confirmed.

If I’m reading this right, you’re a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/12 "2010-02-11T14:33:41Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That’s one kill he should have confirmed.

That’s pretty fucked up.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/13 "2010-02-11T14:48:53Z")

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> Originally Posted by **Jim Ferguson**  
> I would like to personally thank, what’s the man’s name? Nidal, or whoever the shooter is. I would like to thank him for bringing all of this positivity into our life.

I agree with others here that they’re flipping the shooter the bird.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/14 "2010-02-11T14:51:39Z")

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Why is this NEWS? WHY??? Who cares what they say?

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**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/15 "2010-02-11T14:54:31Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Ok, the whole thanking thing is strange, but nothing wrong with turning something very negative into something positive.
> 
> If I’m reading this right, you’re a fucking idiot.

I agree that turning a negative into a positive is possible. Take “war spouses” for one example. My grandmother was one, after surviving Auschwitz she met my grandfather and thus here I am. For me, I suppose I have Hitler to thank for my being here. My gut won’t let me say that and mean it, but using the logic of the family in the video, I would be “justified” in doing so because a positive event in my life–my existence–can be traced to a horrific event. There is no debate that positive things can emerge from negative events.

What I take issue with is the self-centerdness of the woman and her family that compels them to _go on television_ and not simply acknowledge that things worked out for them, but _to go as far as to address a personal “thank-you” to the shooter_, as if her happiness is so important that the despondency of hundeds of others is collateral damage in some divine mission to make her happy.

It’s calloused, unnecessary, and very arrogant.

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**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/16 "2010-02-11T15:04:56Z")

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> [@heatmiserfl](#):
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> I agree with others here that they’re flipping the shooter the bird.

Yeah, I guess I can see your point, and maybe that’s what the family had in mind. But either they royally fucked up the delivery of that point or the reporter did by editing out some key phrases.

For example, a good way to pitch the story as a “fuck-you” to the shooter would be to lead in with, “A Houston family decides to not let the hatred of behind the Ft. Hood shooting win out in the end.”

Then, the dad, for instance, could say something like, “I’d like to let what’s-his-name, Nadal Hassan, know that he didn’t break my daugher’s spirit. She’s married and happy now, and he can’t take that from her.”

If the point was to convey a sense of defiance against evil, somebody dropped the ball on that story.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/17 "2010-02-11T15:11:53Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That’s one kill he should have confirmed.

I chuckled. Very quietly.

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**Author:** ![Redwing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Redwing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redwing)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/18 "2010-02-11T15:20:25Z")

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I don’t get the outrage. She’s found a way past the horror of being shot by a fellow soldier, and we’re supposed to be upset at her? She’s got a tool that lets her respond to her attacker without wallowing in the darker emotions, and we’re taking her to task for it?

She’s not thanking Hassan for his spree, just for shooting her. This isn’t thanking Hitler for bringing your grandparents together, it’s your grandmother thanking him for leading her to your grandfather; rubbing his nose in that he helped some Jews. It’s vengence without subcumming to hatered, the very essence of being better than the scum that hurt you.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/19 "2010-02-11T15:21:02Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Ok, the whole thanking thing is strange, but nothing wrong with turning something very negative into something positive.
> 
> If I’m reading this right, you’re a fucking idiot.

Alessan is anything but.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/20 "2010-02-11T15:24:13Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Alessan is anything but.

So, he can’t make idiotic comments, either?

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