# Family says "Thank You" to Ft. Hood Shooter **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540 "2010-02-11T08:41:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/61 "2010-02-11T18:20:45Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > All I know is if you shot me and a million dollars flew out of my asshole, I still wouldn’t thank the you, because I get the feeling that getting shot sucks. Especially when the others who got shot along with me ended up not only without the anal million, but dead. This reminds me – a lot of the 9/11 survivors ended up with gigantic amounts of cash from donations made after the bombings. 9/11 widowers and widowers were suddenly multi-millionaires. If you had been one of those survivors, would you have taken the money or turned it down. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/62 "2010-02-11T18:21:51Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Ah yes, we can’t ever judge anyone for anything that we ourselves haven’t been through in the most literal way possible. Does this mean that you’ll finally shut the fuck up? Does it mean that you will? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/63 "2010-02-11T18:22:36Z")
I would have taken it. But I wouldn’t have thanked Osama bin Laden for it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/64 "2010-02-11T18:22:43Z")
It’s not a question of whether or not he’d take the money–it’s a question of whether or not he’d thank the bombers for killing his spouse, so that he now has all this money. ETA: > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Does it mean that you will? Of course not. I’m not the one placing retarded restrictions on what “moral right” people have to comment on the actions of others. ETAETA: What’s the matter–“I know you are but what am I” getting used too often these days? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/65 "2010-02-11T18:25:02Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > It’s not a question of whether or not he’d take the money–it’s a question of whether or not he’d thank the bombers for killing his spouse, so that he now has all this money. No, his hypothetical was just about taking the money. Pay attention. > [@](#): > > Of course not. I’m not the one placing retarded restrictions on what “moral right” people have to comment on the actions of others. That’s EXACTLY what you’re doing. That’s what the whole OP is doing. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/66 "2010-02-11T18:32:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, his hypothetical was just about taking the money. Pay attention. No, you’re a retard who can’t read. Pay attention. Here, I’ll even quote it for you: > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > All I know is if you shot me and a million dollars flew out of my asshole, I still wouldn’t thank the you, because I get the feeling that getting shot sucks. Especially when the others who got shot along with me ended up not only without the anal million, but dead. Nowhere in there does he say anything about taking the money or not taking the money. He’s saying that no amount of compensation can make him thank the person who injured him, especially when others were injured as badly or worse in the same incident but received no compensation. > [@](#): > > That’s EXACTLY what you’re doing. That’s what the whole OP is doing. I’m not saying she can’t say it–in fact, I’ve explicitly said that she may. However, I may also judge her for saying it, just as you may judge me for commenting on her saying it. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/67 "2010-02-11T18:34:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, his hypothetical was just about taking the money. Pay attention. Whose hypothetical? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/68 "2010-02-11T18:35:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > And yes, they are stupid. That’s what I’m trying to say. Teenagers have shallow thought processes. They’re impulsive. They don’t think things through. They might even have a romanticized image of what they will be doing, then reality is a splash of cold water. > > Recruiters depend on this impulsivity and shallowness of thought. The romanticization too. Oh. Well, fair enough, then. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > All I know is if you shot me and a million dollars flew out of my asshole, I still wouldn’t thank the you, because I get the feeling that getting shot sucks. Especially when the others who got shot along with me ended up not only without the anal million, but dead. If I shot you and a million dollars flew out of your asshole you’d have no cause to thank me anyway. I mean, if I dislike you enough to shoot you, I certainly dislike you enough to steal your ass-money. ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/69 "2010-02-11T18:36:16Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > This is an example of something that it’s OK to think, but tacky to say in public. A closed mouth gathers no feet. Exactly! As has been said in the many threads about a couple of you-know-who’s , not everything that enters one’s mind need be verbalized. I think most people who survive an event like the Ft. Hood shooting feel something called “survivor’s guilt.” It’s a documented phenomenon that makes people feel guilty for getting out of the situation alive and feeling relieved, or even happy, that someone else’s misfortune didn’t become your own. It’s natural to feel “Thank God it wasn’t me [in those towers/on those planes/in that school/etc.]” But general decency usually prevents people from going public about how grateful they are to the perpetrator for the incidental benefits of the atrocity. It’s just bad taste. Of course she can feel the way she wants, but I reserve my right to criticize her for putting out those feelings in as public a manner as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/70 "2010-02-11T18:40:56Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh. Well, fair enough, then. > > If I shot you and a million dollars flew out of your asshole you’d have no cause to thank me anyway. I mean, if I dislike you enough to shoot you, I certainly dislike you enough to steal your ass-money. If you weren’t too busy shooting everyone else. It’s the EMTs scooping up all the victims who get the ass cash windfall. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/71 "2010-02-11T18:50:24Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Whose hypothetical? Ok, I misread it. I missed the “thank you” part. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/72 "2010-02-11T18:54:24Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > A lot of people get hustled by recruiters into enlisting when they’re very young and stupid. I was one of those people. When you’re 18 (as I was), your long term thinking is non-existent. A lot of kids never really comprehend what they’re getting into until they’re in it. Which is one of the reasons why they’re perfect for armed services. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/73 "2010-02-11T19:26:21Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > “It was awfully nice of you to shoot me the way you did, Mr. Hasan, but next time, please try to miss everyone else, you murdering fuck!” This is the part that her defenders seem to be missing. I guess all those dead people were just the collateral damage of her non-deployment. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/74 "2010-02-11T19:58:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > bullet hole and the ass-million Band name. (with “I’d Take That Today” as their lead single) ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/75 "2010-02-11T20:10:46Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > This is the part that her defenders seem to be missing. I guess all those dead people were just the collateral damage of her non-deployment. Ah. She’s The Most Important Person In The World. I get it now. Any action that benefits her is good, any action that is to her detriment is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/76 "2010-02-11T20:20:21Z")
Eh…that’s no different than all the people who thank God for saving them or their loved ones from earthquakes and plane crashes. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/77 "2010-02-11T20:44:33Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Eh…that’s no different than all the people who thank God for saving them or their loved ones from earthquakes and plane crashes. And I think doing that in public is a little on the tacky side, too. Especially if you’re saying it where you know the relatives of people who didn’t make it through the same incident will hear you. OK (and perhaps unavoidable, human nature being what it is) to think, OK to pray in private, rather rude to say in public. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/78 "2010-02-11T21:11:07Z")
Her comments are extremely insensitive to those fellow soldiers that also got to avoid deployment…by being dead. I empathize with her and her family’s relief over not having to deploy, but at the same time, that sentiment should have been shared in private amongst the family members, not with the freaking media. I hope that she gets an admonishment from someone in her chain of command. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/79 "2010-02-11T21:41:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Eh…that’s no different than all the people who thank God for saving them or their loved ones from earthquakes and plane crashes. If it makes you feel any better, I don’t like them, either. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/80 "2010-02-11T21:43:44Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I hope that she gets an admonishment from someone in her chain of command. Well, Hassan _was_ a superior officer. I think she’s been admonished enough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540.md?page=5)