# Family says "Thank You" to Ft. Hood Shooter **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540 "2010-02-11T08:41:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/81 "2010-02-11T22:04:01Z")
> [@Ruby](#): > > I usually stay out of the Pit but those who are defending this young woman’s statements as well as her family really piss me off. > > 1. As a wife of a soldier, I understand the military and the camaraderie that exists between soldiers. This man’s act is a violation of trust on so many levels. He wasn’t just some stranger opening fire at McDonalds. He was a fellow soldier. > > 2. This young woman VOLUNTEERED to serve our country. VOLUNTEERED with the full understanding that she is being trained to defend our country. VOLUNTEERED knowing that the chance of being deployed is extremely high. Did I mention she VOLUNTEERED? > > 3. For one second, try to put yourself in the shoes of those families whose son/daughter/brother/father/mother was killed that day. Is that too hard? Let me try to help. Think of the person who you love the most. Now think of that person dead after one tragic day at Ft. Hood. Dead. Gone. Now imagine hearing some fucknugget THANKING the killer for just wounding his daughter. > > This goes way beyond being grateful that your daughter is still alive. This spits in the face of all of those people who lost the people that they loved the most. Very well said. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/82 "2010-02-11T23:17:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, Hassan _was_ a superior officer. I think she’s been admonished enough. Stop! I’m still laughing over your theoretical stealing of **Dio’s** ass-money! ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/83 "2010-02-11T23:31:45Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > I wouldn’t suprise me that many soldiers have doubts about being deployed and experience some measure of relief if, for some reason, their deployment is postponed or cancelled. The only difference here is that this particular woman expressed that relief in a public way. Bullshit. As others have pointed out, she did not say something to the effect of “it was a terrible thing that happened, but the one good thing that happened as a result was that I got to spend more time with my family at home.” Instead we got something to the effect of “I’m a special snowflake that God loves more than anyone else and God directed Hassan to go on a murderous rampage just so I could get out of my duty.” [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Eh…that’s no different than all the people who thank God for saving them or their loved ones from earthquakes and plane crashes. [/QUOTE] People thank God for saving their loved ones in natural or mechanical disasters precisely because of how dangerous and/or deadly they were to some many others. SPC Roscoe (with the support her father) is grateful that the shooting happened because it meant she can now be discharged from the Army without having to deploy. Not that it was dangerous and deadly to so many others, not that it was a tragedy that deeply affected other families who are now missing loved ones - instead, it was a divinely orchestrated event that was apparently intended for her sole benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/84 "2010-02-12T02:21:17Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Stop! I’m still laughing over your theoretical stealing of **Dio’s** ass-money! That was actually **Jack Batty** ’s ass-money but I’ll take **Dio** ’s. Might wear a second set of gloves. ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/85 "2010-02-12T02:30:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That was actually **Jack Batty** ’s ass-money but I’ll take **Dio** ’s. Might wear a second set of gloves. What the hell, colon cash for everybody! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/86 "2010-02-12T02:39:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That was actually **Jack Batty** ’s ass-money but I’ll take **Dio** ’s. Might wear a second set of gloves. That taint will taint… ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/87 "2010-02-12T02:54:04Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > Bullshit. As others have pointed out, she did not say something to the effect of “it was a terrible thing that happened, but the one good thing that happened as a result was that I got to spend more time with my family at home.” Instead we got something to the effect of “I’m a special snowflake that God loves more than anyone else and God directed Hassan to go on a murderous rampage just so I could get out of my duty.” The only thing people are outraged, OUTRAGED, I say, is that fact that she said something publicly. And it’s really your fucking problem if you have an issue with someone believing things happen for a reason. > [@](#): > > People thank God for saving their loved ones in natural or mechanical disasters precisely because of how dangerous and/or deadly they were to some many others. SPC Roscoe (with the support her father) is grateful that the shooting happened because it meant she can now be discharged from the Army without having to deploy. Not that it was dangerous and deadly to so many others, not that it was a tragedy that deeply affected other families who are now missing loved ones - instead, it was a divinely orchestrated event that was apparently intended for her sole benefit. People are selfish. Or is that a newsflash to you? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/88 "2010-02-12T04:16:58Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > The only thing people are outraged, OUTRAGED, I say, is that fact that she said something publicly. And it’s really your fucking problem if you have an issue with someone believing things happen for a reason. > > People are selfish. Or is that a newsflash to you? I think the disconnect between these two examples is that none of us volunteers for Mother Nature’s foibles. Its relatively unforeseen. At age 18, we Americans cant drink a beer, but we can kill and vote for our country with voluntary service. There is a difference there. Logical? Maybe not. But its there. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/89 "2010-02-12T06:26:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Who the fuck is anyone else to tell the victims how they have to feel? It’s not your business, man. > > I remember after the Rodney King riots when that truck driver who got jacked and beaten said he was a Christian, and that he had forgiven his attackers. People were similarly outraged about that. “How dare he forgive those animals?” I don’t get that mentality at all. Show some fucking respect for the victims. I suppose when they make it the business of the public by going on TV. Everybody wants to get on the idiot box, make a minute of fame out of their experience. I think the truck driver (Reginald Denny?) and this soldier should make their peace and forgive outside of the limelight. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/90 "2010-02-12T07:56:31Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Perhaps you should undertake a course is analysis. I was not defending the comment- I was not called to. I was stating that Alessan is not a fucking idiot. There is a difference. > > I await your apology which I doubt that I will see. Alessan is usually not fucking anyone, and he is usually not an idiot. However on this occasion his statement could be described as the statement of a fucking idiot. We all have bad days. I too doubt you will be getting an apology, as you are the apologist of today’s fucking idiot. I hope that your defense of fucking idiocy is temporary and am confident from your past posting history that it is. As for the young lady and her family, their tragedy is not as large as the other victims, but if this is their way of dealing with it, then that is what it is. I wish them and the other victims and their families well. Just because they don’t express themselves artfully doesn’t mean they shouldn’t speak. And anyone who doesn’t want to get shipped to Iraq is fine with me, even if they desert. It’s a shitty war fought for oil company profits. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/91 "2010-02-12T09:53:35Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > The only thing people are outraged, OUTRAGED, I say, is that fact that she said something publicly. And it’s really your fucking problem if you have an issue with someone believing things happen for a reason. No, we only KNOW about her feelings because she said something publicly. And no, it’s not just my “fucking problem” if she believes this entire incident happened merely to allow her to avoid being deployed. There are other victims of this out there who will likely be hurt and appalled by her extreme self-absorption and narcissism. Get your head out of your ass. > [@](#): > > People are selfish. Or is that a newsflash to you? Again, victims of shooting massacres usually aren’t known to make completely offensive, baffling public statements like this. It’s just as despicable as a survivor of Columbine publicly thanking Klebold and Harris for shooting up their high school because they managed to get into a really great college because of it. Only its even less justifiable in this case because SPC Roscoe is a Soldier who volunteered for the duty that she was being assigned. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/92 "2010-02-12T18:55:58Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’d take the bullet hole and the ass-million. I’d take that today. If getting shot resulted in rectal riches, then I daresay there’d be no support at all for gun control. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/93 "2010-02-12T19:42:21Z")
A young woman doesn’t have to be dragged away from her husband to a war of foreign adventurism? Sounds like she has a serious silver lining there, & she has a right to be grateful for that. There are greater crimes than Hasan’s perpetrated by state actors, including our own military. If you would condemn her her moment of selfishness, then you must also condemn any Iraqi who’s grateful for the US invasion. > [@Alessan](#): > > That’s one kill he should have confirmed. How many Kurds & marsh Arabs should Bush have confirmed kill on then? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/94 "2010-02-12T20:15:49Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > All I know is if you shot me and a million dollars flew out of my asshole, I still wouldn’t thank the you, because I get the feeling that getting shot sucks. Especially when the others who got shot along with me ended up not only without the anal million, but dead. This gives a whole new meaning to the term “filthy lucre.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/95 "2010-02-12T20:28:27Z")
Would ass money be taxable? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/96 "2010-02-12T20:41:28Z")
Yes, but only at the bottom marginal rate. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/97 "2010-02-12T20:58:36Z")
Pope John Paul II forgave the guy who shot him. But I don’t think he ever thanked him. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/98 "2010-02-13T17:07:54Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > And I think doing that in public is a little on the tacky side, too. Especially if you’re saying it where you know the relatives of people who didn’t make it through the same incident will hear you. OK (and perhaps unavoidable, human nature being what it is) to think, OK to pray in private, rather rude to say in public. I’ve always thought so, too. Following that thought through - “Thank God for saving my life. Jesus was with me that day.” And what, everyone else who died had pissed him off or didn’t deserve to live? ---
**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/99 "2010-02-13T19:04:18Z")
I wonder if anyone has pointed out to Dayna and her family in person that they might not have exercised the greatest of tact here. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540/100 "2010-02-13T21:10:09Z")
> [@Fionn](#): > > I wonder if anyone has pointed out to Dayna and her family in person that they might not have exercised the greatest of tact here. Without knowing this absolutely, I’d say that it’s about 99.99999% certain that yes, someone has brought this to ther attention. And it turns out that the Pope is indeed Catholic. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-says-thank-you-to-ft-hood-shooter/528540.md?page=6)