# Family-values Pub senator caught up in DC Madam scandal **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 11, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385 "2007-07-11T17:07:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/41 "2007-07-11T22:52:53Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] As for Vitter, last I checked he was a politician from Louisiana, is it actually news when one of them is caught in a scandal at this point? [/QUOTE] More to the point, he’s a _Republican_. They don’t have to be from Louisiana to be corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/42 "2007-07-11T23:11:34Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] More to the point, he’s a _Republican_. They don’t have to be from Louisiana to be corrupt. [/QUOTE] Agreed. Of course, the same goes for Democrats, _cough_ James Traficant _cough_, or of course, Senator Harrison A. Williams (D-NJ), John Jenrette (D-NJ), Raymond Lederer (D-PA), Michael Myers (D-PA), Frank Thompson (D-NJ), or Senator Robert Torricelli (D-NJ)! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/43 "2007-07-11T23:34:29Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] Interesting, interesting I say! I can’t remember the last term I saw such a fair, balanced, and rational opinion expressed in this forum, I applaud you sir. [/QUOTE] As for rational, I go by what I see, and what I see is that the Republicans are amoral predators. As for “fair and balanced”, I regard the Republicans as evil, and my enemy. I have no interest in being “fair” towards them, and I’m certainly not going to be “balanced” towards vermin. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/44 "2007-07-11T23:37:26Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] Of course, the same goes for Democrats [/QUOTE] You really are a predictable little shit, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/45 "2007-07-12T00:12:36Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] Isn’t the invisible hand that trick where you lie down with your shoulder at a weird angle so your arm falls asleep and then you masturbate with the numb hand and pretend it’s somebody else? **Cheaper than a hooker, at least**. [/QUOTE] _shrugs_ Same price as a congressional intern. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/46 "2007-07-12T00:48:32Z")
[There’s more on the way.](http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/BREAKINGNEWS/70711033) > [@](#): > > Flynt said he has “20 something investigations going that all look good” into members of Congress, a result of his full-page ad in the Washington Post in early June offering $1 million to anyone who provided credible information about sexual activities by married members who espoused family values. > > “We have five prostitutes in New Orleans,” Flynt said. “They will probably share in the bounties. > > “This is not a witch hunt. This is not to expose someone’s sex life,” Hustler said. > > Vitter has attacked “any similarity of gay rights” and campaigned on the “sanctity of marriage,” Flynt said. He co-authored the proposed federal constitutional amendment that would have banned gay marriage or civil unions nationally. > > “I don’t want a man like that legislating for me, especially in the areas of morality,” Flynt said. “This is pay-back time. Pay back is a bitch.” > > “I’m not exposing anyone’s sex life. I am only exposing the hypocrisy,” Flynt said. “I don’t care what their sex life is.” ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/47 "2007-07-12T01:02:02Z")
I see where he’s going with this, but to be fair, he _is_ exposing someone’s sex life (assuming people have come forward). Regardless of what his actual priority is, these things are going to come out. He put it better in his first try than his second; It’s not \*to \* expose someone, but that is what will happen. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/48 "2007-07-12T01:05:10Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] I think a better alibi would have been to say that the bordello had one wing for executives and another for legislators and that Cheney didn’t belong in either one. [/QUOTE] (golf clap) That one was pretty good, sir! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/49 "2007-07-12T01:11:15Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] As for Vitter, last I checked he was a politician from Louisiana, is it actually news when one of them is caught in a scandal at this point? [/QUOTE] Is it news when a Republican is caught in one? Careful with that wrist - all that handwaving can cause carpal tunnel. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/50 "2007-07-12T01:15:27Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] As for rational, I go by what I see, and what I see is that the Republicans are amoral predators. As for “fair and balanced”, I regard the Republicans as evil, and my enemy. I have no interest in being “fair” towards them, and I’m certainly not going to be “balanced” towards vermin. [/QUOTE] Lolol. You should do stand up. Or become a glass-eyed street preacher. Or both! ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/51 "2007-07-12T01:16:57Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] You really are a predictable little shit, aren’t you? [/QUOTE] I’ll take that as a compliment if you mean I’m predictable in that I always offer a fair and balanced side to any story, instead of instantly jumping on the leftist bandwagons that take half the threads on this forum down the same damn path every single time. Without people like me this forum wouldn’t have any political discourse, it’d have political circle-jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/52 "2007-07-12T01:18:13Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Is it news when a Republican is caught in one? Careful with that wrist - all that handwaving can cause carpal tunnel. -Joe [/QUOTE] Lol, did you miss the earlier part of the thread? I already responded to this exact comment. I even listed several of the beloved Dems who have been caught in scandals. Not to mention good ol’ Dollar Bill Jefferson, also from Louisiana. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/53 "2007-07-12T01:22:06Z")
Flynt has not yet named any of the “20 or so” more Congresscritters he might nail. Perhaps some of them will be Dems. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/54 "2007-07-12T01:25:30Z")
It’s ironic a guy paralyzed from the waste down because of an assassination attempt said “payback is a bitch.” I bet he realizes that every morning when he gets up and notices he can’t feel anything below his waist. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/55 "2007-07-12T01:31:58Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] It’s ironic a guy paralyzed from the waste down because of an assassination attempt said “payback is a bitch.” I bet he realizes that every morning when he gets up and notices he can’t feel anything below his waist. [/QUOTE] How would that constitute “payback”? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/56 "2007-07-12T01:33:13Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] I’ll take that as a compliment if you mean I’m predictable in that I always offer a fair and balanced side to any story, … [/QUOTE] In fact, you offer an opposing side. A needed opposing side, granted, but not fair and balanced any more than **Der Trihs** is. > [@Martin Hyde](#): > > It’s ironic a guy paralyzed from the waste down because of an assassination attempt said “payback is a bitch.” I bet he realizes that every morning when he gets up and notices he can’t feel anything below his waist. From the ubiquitous [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt): > [@](#): > > White supremacist serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin has confessed to the shootings, claiming he was outraged by an interracial photo shoot in Hustler. No further comment. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/57 "2007-07-12T01:35:21Z")
Nothing to do with Flynt’s expose campaign, but [a Pub state rep in Florida was just arrested for soliciting a prostitute.](http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3745189&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1) He offered $20 to be allowed to perform oral sex on an undercover (male) cop in a public men’s room. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/58 "2007-07-12T01:41:09Z")
No, he’s got you, guys, better just give it up. See, he’s gone and whipped an _equivalence_ on yer asses (I’ll give ya’ll a minute to run look that up.) What that means is if he can prove than any Democrat ever provoked a scandal, it is therefore _equivalent_, and you lose. That’s a true fact, you could look it up. He’s got you. Screwed, blued, and tattooed. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/59 "2007-07-12T01:45:05Z")
You know, you’d think after that emails-to-pages scandal last year, horny pols would have learned to be more cautious. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385/60 "2007-07-12T01:45:07Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] Agreed. Of course, the same goes for Democrats, _cough_ James Traficant _cough_, or of course, Senator Harrison A. Williams (D-NJ), John Jenrette (D-NJ), Raymond Lederer (D-PA), Michael Myers (D-PA), Frank Thompson (D-NJ), or Senator Robert Torricelli (D-NJ)! [/QUOTE] Geez **Hyde** , you really gave the Way-Back Machine a workout to cobble together that list! I’m surprised you didn’t throw in Adam Clayton Powell. Five of those happened over 25 years ago, and correct me if I am wrong, was Torricelli ever convicted of anything? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/family-values-pub-senator-caught-up-in-dc-madam-scandal/411385.md?page=4)