# Famous Fresh Flubs-- or blooped TV, did it really happen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446 "2007-05-17T14:32:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/1 "2007-05-17T14:32:30Z")
After years of denying it happened, Bob Eubanks was proven mistaken when the famous 'In the butt, Bob" clip was shown on a game show blooper show recently. What other fresh flubs have been proven true? Two oldies that come to my mind (this is fof memory talking, since I’ve never actually seen these): On You Bet Your Life, a women explained her many, many children with “My husband loves me” to which Groucho replied, “I love my cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth every once in a while.” The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, a sexy starlette (Gina Lolabrigida? Ava Gabor?) brings her pet to the show and asks Johnny if he’d like to put her pussy, to which Johnny replied, “Move the cat and I will.” True? Any clips of these if they are? Any other fresh flubs you can think of? ---
**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/2 "2007-05-17T14:43:57Z")
I’ve seen both of your examples in Snopes I believe. For the Johnny Carson one it was proven to be false. > **[Did Johnny Carson Make a Risqué Remark About a Guest's Cat?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/carson-cat-remark/)** > > A purported quip by 'Tonight Show' host Johnny Carson regarding Zsa Zsa Gabor and her cat has become one of the most infamous of broadcast legends. The Groucho Marx one was also proven to be false. > **[The Secret Words](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-secret-words/)** > > Rumor: Groucho Marx made a risqué wisecrack about his cigar to a female 'You Bet Your Life' contestant with 17 children. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/3 "2007-05-17T15:13:17Z")
[QUOTE=Cowboy8467] I’ve seen both of your examples in Snopes I believe. For the Johnny Carson one it was proven to be false. > **[Did Johnny Carson Make a Risqué Remark About a Guest's Cat?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/carson-cat-remark/)** > > A purported quip by 'Tonight Show' host Johnny Carson regarding Zsa Zsa Gabor and her cat has become one of the most infamous of broadcast legends. The Groucho Marx one was also proven to be false. > **[Did Groucho Marx Make That Famous Joke About His Cigar?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-secret-words/)** > > Rumor: Groucho Marx made a risqué wisecrack about his cigar to a female 'You Bet Your Life' contestant with 17 children. [/QUOTE] Not that I’m disbelieving Snopes but a big part of their debunking rests on the participants denying the event ever happened. Much like Bob Eubanks did until the clip actually showed up. Just saying, is all. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/4 "2007-05-17T16:26:48Z")
Side note: I’ve never heard the term “fresh flub” before. Is that a regional thing? ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/5 "2007-05-17T16:30:25Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Not that I’m disbelieving Snopes but a big part of their debunking rests on the participants denying the event ever happened. Much like Bob Eubanks did until the clip actually showed up. Just saying, is all. [/QUOTE] I have noticed this as well. They have the UL of the guy hiring a hooker and it turns out to be his daughter, as false. How can they be sure in all of history this has never happened? Minor nitpick for such a great site, I know. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/6 "2007-05-17T17:08:18Z")
[QUOTE=Slacker] Side note: I’ve never heard the term “fresh flub” before. Is that a regional thing? [/QUOTE] Going for alliteration. The famous said something fresh (as in sexually naughty) on TV what was later cut. Famous Fresh Flubs! I made it up. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/7 "2007-05-17T17:14:38Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] I have noticed this as well. They have the UL of the guy hiring a hooker and it turns out to be his daughter, as false. How can they be sure in all of history this has never happened? Minor nitpick for such a great site, I know. [/QUOTE] Well, the book of Genisis, chapter 38 tells of Judah and Tamar, with a simular situation. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/8 "2007-05-17T17:39:53Z")
Isn’t the point that while these events may have happened, _they never went out on the air_? You can swear up and down and sideways that you heard “up the butt” when it first aired, but you’re lying. It never appeared on the program. Same with the Groucho gag. You never saw it because a) if it happened, it was on the radio show before the tv show started, and b) they cut it from the program. Is a flub real if it never went out on the air? Answer: No. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/9 "2007-05-17T18:02:02Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] Isn’t the point that while these events may have happened, _they never went out on the air_? You can swear up and down and sideways that you heard “up the butt” when it first aired, but you’re lying. It never appeared on the program. Same with the Groucho gag. You never saw it because a) if it happened, it was on the radio show before the tv show started, and b) they cut it from the program. Is a flub real if it never went out on the air? Answer: No. [/QUOTE] The Eubanks incident episode aired. The words were bleeped. But the episode, with Hank Perez and his wife Olga, aired, so I think “you’re lying” is kind of strong language, especially since the bleeping was such as to allow the listener to easily infer the words (which were actually “…in the ass.”) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/10 "2007-05-17T18:03:46Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] Is a flub real if it never went out on the air? Answer: No. [/QUOTE] Unless the flub happened in front of a studio audience. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-fresh-flubs-or-blooped-tv-did-it-really-happen/404446/11 "2007-05-17T19:03:27Z")
I think the best treatment came in the [Urban Legends are always false](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=380852) thread. The point there is made that something happened, but it happened in a very different way from the legend. People rewrite history to make it funny, or snappier, or more concise, or more conforming to expectations. Nobody ever heard “in the butt, Bob.” And for that matter, nobody actually heard “in the ass” either. Do we really want to expand flubs to every instance of something getting bleeped out? Studio audiences get to hear - and see - a zillion things that don’t make out onto the air. Maybe those are funny, and are worth repeating. But flubs? Not to me.