# Famous Hollywood Brunettes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 27, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508 "2004-10-27T18:22:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/21 "2004-10-28T16:41:30Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Who would you add if we wanted to go contemporary? Julia Roberts? Neither Christina Ricci nor Janeane Garofolo is exactly va-va-voom material…

Hmm. In addition to Roberts, how about[ul]  
[li][Jennifer Connelly](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000124/)–definitely (on preview, **Profane** beat me to it).[/li][li][Salma Hayek](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000161/)–not “Hollywood” enough?[/li][li][Marisa Tomei](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000673/)–probably.[/li][li][Angelina Jolie](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/)–let’s ignore her blonde roles, shall we?[/li][li][Amanda Peet](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001605/)–too B-list?[/li][li][_][Katie Holmes](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005017/)–too small-screen?[/li][li][Catherine Zeta Jones](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001876/)–too Welsh? Naah, she qualifies.[/li][li][Jennifer Lopez](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000182/)–too JLo?[_][Jennifer Love Hewitt](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001349/)–possibly[/li][li][Elizabeth Hurley](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000167/)–too English?[/li][li][Ashley Judd](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000171/)–she’s a natural brunette! Remember the 1998 Oscars?[/li][li][Juliette Lewis](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000496/)–utter lack of va-va-va-voom?[/li][li][Fairuza Balk](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000103/)–has she had any glamorous roles?[/li][li][Elizabeth McGovern](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001527/)–purely for personal reasons. I saw [Ragtime](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082970/) at an impressionable age.[/li][li][Eva Mendes](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0578949/)–is it too soon in her career to tell?[/li][li][Brittany Murphy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005261/)–too many blonde roles to qualify, but she looks better as a brunette.[/li][li][Anna Paquin](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001593/)–the younguest brunette Oscar winner.[/li][li][Natalie Portman](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000204/)–the Star Wars geeks probably think she has more va-va-va-voom than I do.[/li][li][Parker Posey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000205/)–too indy.[/li][li][Jennifer Tilly](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000236/)–if it wasn’t for that one Oscar nom, I’d say she was way too B-list.[/li][li][Liv Tyler](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000239/)–does she need to be able to act to qualify?[/li][li][Selma Blair](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004757/)–does she need to have boobs to qualify?[/li][li][Rachel Weisz](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004757/)–possibly.[/li][li][Anne Hathaway](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004266/)–if she ever gets any grownup roles.[/li][\*][Jennifer Garner](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004950/)–too small-screen still?[/ul]

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/22 "2004-10-28T18:39:45Z")

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May Zeus forgive you, but you left out the most entrancingly attractive woman _ever_ to stand in front of a camera: **Jacqueline Bisset**.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/23 "2004-10-28T18:55:36Z")

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> [@ElectricZ](#):
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> Rita Hayworth.
> 
> /swoon!

Yhe TV special _AFI’s 100 YEARS…100 SONGS_, put #84 as Hayworth singing _Put the Blame on Mame_ from the movie _Gilda_. Rita Moreno commented on the performance, saying Hayworth was charged with hot female sexuality, or something.

I remember thinking, “Hey, that’s _Rita Hayworth!_ She could be up there singing the Alphabet Song and it would be charged with hot female sexuality.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/24 "2004-10-28T19:04:28Z")

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[QUOTE=chukhung]  
Hmm. In addition to Roberts, how about[ul]  
[li][Jennifer Connelly](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000124/)–definitely (on preview, **Profane** beat me to it).[/li][li][Salma Hayek](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000161/)–not “Hollywood” enough?[/li][li][Marisa Tomei](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000673/)–probably.[/li][li][Angelina Jolie](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001401/)–let’s ignore her blonde roles, shall we?[/li][li][Amanda Peet](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001605/)–too B-list?[/li][li][_][Katie Holmes](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005017/)–too small-screen?[/li][li][Catherine Zeta Jones](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001876/)–too Welsh? Naah, she qualifies.[/li][li][Jennifer Lopez](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000182/)–too JLo?[_][Jennifer Love Hewitt](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001349/)–possibly[/li][li][Elizabeth Hurley](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000167/)–too English?[/li][li][Ashley Judd](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000171/)–she’s a natural brunette! Remember the 1998 Oscars?[/li][li][Juliette Lewis](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000496/)–utter lack of va-va-va-voom?[/li][li][Fairuza Balk](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000103/)–has she had any glamorous roles?[/li][li][Elizabeth McGovern](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001527/)–purely for personal reasons. I saw [Ragtime](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082970/) at an impressionable age.[/li][li][Eva Mendes](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0578949/)–is it too soon in her career to tell?[/li][li][Brittany Murphy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005261/)–too many blonde roles to qualify, but she looks better as a brunette.[/li][li][Anna Paquin](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001593/)–the younguest brunette Oscar winner.[/li][li][Natalie Portman](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000204/)–the Star Wars geeks probably think she has more va-va-va-voom than I do.[/li][li][Parker Posey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000205/)–too indy.[/li][li][Jennifer Tilly](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000236/)–if it wasn’t for that one Oscar nom, I’d say she was way too B-list.[/li][li][Liv Tyler](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000239/)–does she need to be able to act to qualify?[/li][li][Selma Blair](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004757/)–does she need to have boobs to qualify?[/li][li][Rachel Weisz](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004757/)–possibly.[/li][li][Anne Hathaway](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004266/)–if she ever gets any grownup roles.[/li][li][Jennifer Garner](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004950/)–too small-screen still?[/ul][/li][/QUOTE]

[Winona Ryder](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000213/).

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/25 "2004-10-28T19:27:53Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> [Winona Ryder](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000213/).

And she’s definitely a brunette, judging from the song at least:

_Wynona’s got herself a big brown beaver  
and she shows it off to all her friends._

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**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/26 "2004-10-28T20:19:47Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> [Winona Ryder](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000213/)

Damn. I swear I had her on my list (“Too waifish?”) but somehow she dropped out when I was editing it into bullet points. :mad:

Winona, if you’re reading this, I think you could use a good va-va-va-voom role at this stage in your career. You’ve still got the [figure](http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800010920&cf=pg&photoid=538130&intl=us) for it. And as for that shoplifting episode–well, that just proves you want to be a bad girl.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/27 "2004-10-28T20:28:46Z")

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> [@chukhung](#):
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> Winona, if you’re reading this, I think you could use a good va-va-va-voom role at this stage in your career.

She’s got a lot of stuff coming up this next year. _A Scanner Darkly_, for one, which is definitely _not_ a va-va-voom sort of role. Also _The Darwin Awards_, and _Oskur Fisherman_. The second two are only in pre-production, so may or may not happen. _Mary Warner_, which is just announced and not even in pre-production sounds like it might be your best bet.

On that note, what has been a good recent role that would have that “va-va-va-voom” quality to it?

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**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/28 "2004-10-28T21:43:00Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> On that note, what has been a good recent role that would have that “va-va-va-voom” quality to it?

The obvious choice would have to be “Caprice Stickles” in [A Dirty Shame](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365125/), but I can’t see how _that_ role could have helped Winona’s career… 😛

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**Author:** ![dubs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dubs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dubs)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/29 "2004-10-29T01:16:24Z")

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Not Hollywood, but I’m saying it anyway…Claudia Black–Farscape

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/30 "2004-10-29T02:04:24Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Yhe TV special _AFI’s 100 YEARS…100 SONGS_, put #84 as Hayworth singing _Put the Blame on Mame_ from the movie _Gilda_. Rita Moreno commented on the performance, saying Hayworth was charged with hot female sexuality, or something.

Hey. How about Rita Moreno?

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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/31 "2004-10-29T03:13:45Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Who would you add if we wanted to go contemporary?

Are we going solely for vixen types, or simply beautiful brunette women? If the latter…

Angelica Huston  
Angie Harmon  
Annette Bening  
Cher  
Dana Owens (aka Queen Latifah)  
Geena Davis  
Holly Hunter  
Jill Hennessey  
Julianna Margolies  
Kirstie Alley  
Leah Remini  
Marcia Gay-Harden  
Marlee Matlin  
Mary-Louise Parker  
Maura Tierney  
Megan Mullally  
Sandra Bullock  
Sigourney Weaver  
Stockard Channing  
Susan Sarandon  
Tina Fey

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/32 "2004-10-29T13:12:17Z")

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I hate to burst any bubbles, but Rita was dubbed in the “Mame” number. There’s some dispute as to whether she sang it herself later in the film when she’s seen strumming a guitar.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-hollywood-brunettes/271508/33 "2004-10-31T07:14:48Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I hate to burst any bubbles, but Rita was dubbed in the “Mame” number. There’s some dispute as to whether she sang it herself later in the film when she’s seen strumming a guitar.

Yes, I know and I’m suitably crushed (and it wasn’t even by Marni Nixon, too!) but Rita’s damn hot nonetheless.

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