Well, I guess a spoiler box is pointless, really.
After failing to reason with Ozymandais, he left Ozy’s compound - in the middle of the (ant?)arctic, with no way to get to shelter, since Nightowl stayed there, and there’s nothing at anything resembling a reasonable distance. So, he presumably froze to death soon after.
I would like you to give the titles of the literary works that these people show up in as characters.
Anthony and Cleopatra is considered a good if not great piece of literature in most thinking peoples minds.
:wally
Ah, but now you’re implying a restrictive definition of “literature”; limited to works that have (fictionalized?) “characters”. If coven is willing to accept “by any definition”, then any published work of writing is surely included, and volumes upos volumes have been written about the persons I referenced.
Lily Bart.
Err…except coven never said literature didn’t have a restrictive definition. he said, basically, that by the restrictive definitions of liturature, Cleopatra quailifies.
Hmmm…maybe the problem here is when he said “literary does not mean fictional”? I think what he meant was the person does have to be fictional to appear in a literary work…not that literature was non-fictional.
Cleopatra, in addition to being real, is a character in a literary work. As is Van Gough (Lust for Life?). I can think of anywhere Cobain, Klebold, etc. have be used as literary characters.
Anyway…has anyone mentioned Jocasta?
Can’t think of anywhere… :smack:
Chikamatsu Monzaemon, an Edo-period playwrights I’ve seen referred to as “the Shakespeare of Japan”, also rivalled Shakespeare when it came to dramatic depictions of suicide. One of his most famous plays is actually called The Love Suicides at Sonezaki. As you might guess, it ends with the double suicide of the ill-starred lovers Ohatsu and Tokubei.
Getting back to Western drama, there’s Martha in The Children’s Hour.
Eustacia in Thomas Hardy’s Return of the Native (pretty sure Hardy had quite a few of his other characters commit suicide too).
Isn’t there an Agatha Christie story where it turns out the victim actually committed suicide, but set things up so it would frame someone for murder?
So, do you consider the film Sid and Nancy a documentary? I don’t really get what you’re driving at. I think Antony and Cleopatra qualifies as literature, but ever since I posted “Cleopatra” you’ve had some kind of ax to grind. Care to explain or are you simply refusing to admit that your first response,
was just a little knee-jerk and, in fact, wrong?
Before Brian Ekers drives everyone in this thread to suicide in despair over the state of mankind, I have to throw in the one work of literature that should have been obvious from the beginning.
Robert Lewis Stevenson, The Suicide Club.
Yeah, Ten Little Ni- erm, Ten Little Ind-, I’ll Try again And Then There Were None. One guy murders 8 people, kills himself making it look like murder, and drives the last survivor to hang herself.
No. Here’s what happened.
Rorschach refuses to accept Ozy’s crimes, and leaves, threatening to expose him. He’s presumably intending to use the Owlship. Doc Manhatten knows that exposing Ozy will restart the war the Ozy prevented. Doc tries to reason with Rorschach, but he won’t listen. Rorschach tells doc “one more corpse in the foundations will make no difference” and Doc blasts him into atoms.
Dido
I’ll take your word for it. I can’t, for the life of me, find my copy.
Madame Bovary
Joe Keller, All My Sons
The daughter character in “Night Mother” I can’t remember the name though.
I remember when I was involved backstage in a production of it, we used to say the show ain’t over till the skinny lady is dead.
Henry Scobie, The Heart of the Matter by Grahame Greene.
I believe the killer in Felicia’s Journey ends up taking his own life, in an ending I found pretty unsatisfying.
The poem Richard Cory by Edwin Arlington Robinson just came to mind:
I remember reading this in high school and it still makes me a bit uneasy.