# Famous Missing Objects

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 27, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536 "2010-10-27T15:51:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/41 "2010-10-27T23:17:26Z")

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The full nine hour cut of Erich von Stroheim’s _Greed_.

Also, I read a lot about art theft and forgery. There are a TON of great stories to be had in the art world and I recommend the book _[Museum of the Missing](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=museum+of+the+missing&x=0&y=0)_ for anyone interested in an expansive survey of the topic.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/42 "2010-10-27T23:22:00Z")

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Could we include the mysterious Missing Sock? 😛

Fascinating thread.

The Ark of the Covenant may actually be still out there, hidden.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/43 "2010-10-28T00:28:59Z")

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I was doing a google search for “the Lost Monet” and ran across this news article from a couple of years ago listing a few missing paintings:

[Art Masterpieces Still Missing (Monet to Matisse)](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/362990/art_masterpieces_still_missing_monet.html?cat=2)

ETA: list on page 2.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/44 "2010-10-28T02:05:33Z")

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The _[Portrait of Dr Gachet](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Portrait_of_Dr._Gachet.jpg)_ by Vincent van Gogh. The last definitive location of the painting was in 1990 when it was purchased at an auction by a Japanese billionaire, Ryoei Saito. Saito died in 1996 and it’s not known where the painting is. One rumor is that Saito or his heirs sold the painting to someone who wishs to own it anonymously. A more disturbing rumor is that Saito had the painting destroyed - he once said that he planned on having it cremated with him when he died.

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/45 "2010-10-28T03:02:48Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> King John lost all his treasure in a river, IIRC.

In [the Wash](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wash#King_John_losing_the_Crown_Jewels), an estuary fed by several rivers, rather than a river itself.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/46 "2010-10-28T03:19:50Z")

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Mata Hari’s skull.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/47 "2010-10-28T04:23:53Z")

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My keys, I know I left them around here somewhere?:smack:

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/48 "2010-10-28T05:18:50Z")

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[This article](http://www.cracked.com/article_18539_7-lost-bodies-work-that-would-have-changed-everything_p2.html) and [this one](http://www.cracked.com/article/18368_7-books-we-lost-to-history-that-would-have-changed-world/) has a good list.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/49 "2010-10-28T05:30:31Z")

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Christ’s foreskin. According to Richard Zacks’ [An Underground Education](http://www.amazon.com/Underground-Education-Unauthorized-Outrageous-Supplement/dp/0385483767/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288243724&sr=8-1), there was quite the massive search for it during the Crusades. Crusaders somehow came up with plenty of fakes, though…

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/50 "2010-10-28T05:53:25Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> I guess Air France 447 _F-GZCP_ qualifies for this thread, at least for now!

Huh? They found all kinds of debris and about 50 bodies.

> **[Air France Flight 447](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447#Search_results)**
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> Air France Flight 447 was a scheduled international transatlantic passenger flight from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, France. On 1 June 2009, inconsistent airspeed indications and miscommunication led to the pilots inadvertently stalling the Airbus A330. They failed to recover the aircraft from the stall, and the aircraft crashed into the mid-Atlantic Ocean at 02:14 UTC, killing all 228 passengers and crew on board.
> The Brazilian Navy recovered the first major wre...

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**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/51 "2010-10-28T06:13:49Z")

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80% of the universe. (aka “the missing mass”)

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**Author:** ![Cugel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cugel/32/1199_2.png) [@Cugel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cugel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/52 "2010-10-28T06:52:51Z")

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Changa’s white boots.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/53 "2010-10-28T08:41:41Z")

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The original film of the moon landing

> **[Original moon landing film lost](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/aug/14/20060814-124925-9491r/)**
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> The original film footage of astronaut Neil Armstrong’s first steps on the moon, one of the most important artifacts of the 20th century, has been lost.

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/54 "2010-10-28T12:14:38Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Paris Hilton’s dignity.

_Perfect circles, three-sided squares…_

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/55 "2010-10-28T13:13:17Z")

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[Shergar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shergar)

[Lord Lucan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bingham,_7th_Earl_of_Lucan)

[Winter of Our Missed Content](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=204307)

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/56 "2010-10-28T13:31:33Z")

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Fertmat’s Last Theorum

The Lost Chord

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/57 "2010-10-28T16:43:12Z")

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> Christ’s foreskin. According to Richard Zacks’ [An Underground Education](http://www.amazon.com/Underground-Education-Unauthorized-Outrageous-Supplement/dp/0385483767/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288243724&sr=8-1), there was quite the massive search for it during the Crusades. Crusaders somehow came up with plenty of fakes, though…

I think we can safely assume that this was never saved in the first place. I mean, I know mothers hang on to baby booties and things like that, but surely first-century Jewish parents didn’t save their sons’ foreskin, right?

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/58 "2010-10-28T20:14:09Z")

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The full version of the original \*The Wicker Man \*[1973]. They think the lost footage (IIRC, 40+ minutes’ worth) got buried under an English highway then under construction.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/59 "2010-10-28T21:44:36Z")

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> [@The\_Scrivener](#):
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> The full version of the original \*The Wicker Man \*[1973]. They think the lost footage (IIRC, 40+ minutes’ worth) got buried under an English highway then under construction.

As a warning to other movies that might be thinking about testifying against British Lion Films.

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**Author:** ![tellyworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@tellyworth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tellyworth)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-missing-objects/558536/60 "2010-10-28T22:09:37Z")

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Does a [Prime Minister](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Disappearance) qualify as an object?

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