# Famous movie twists you saw coming a mile away **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2006, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719 "2006-07-09T10:25:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/81 "2006-07-18T18:16:29Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] I had a teacher in high school who accurately predicted not only that Luke and Leia were siblings, but that Darth Vader was their father - right after the first movie came out. She broke down some symbolic things in the movie, and from them figured it out. [/QUOTE] Do you recall what some of those hints were? I’m still of the mind that the “Luke and Leia were siblings” was something pulled out while writing _RotJ,_ not planned earlier in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/82 "2006-07-18T21:03:19Z")
I loved the OMM spoiler in an article that went something like "I came to believe that I was invincible, just like Bruce Willis in all the Die Hard movies except the one where he was dead the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/83 "2006-07-18T21:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=rjung] Do you recall what some of those hints were? I’m still of the mind that the “Luke and Leia were siblings” was something pulled out while writing _RotJ,_ not planned earlier in advance. [/QUOTE] A lot of it is right out of “The Hero With 1000 Faces.” I had a suspicion about Leia when she managed to hold out against Vader’s interrogation so well. Then when Obi-wan started telling Luke about his father, some more things started to click. It’s hard to place everything in retrospect, having seen each of the originals dozens of times. Knowing just _when_ I knew plot points is hard. But the sister bit was kind of obvious to me, I remember. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/84 "2006-07-18T21:24:13Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] > [@Priceguy](#): > > Even if it hadn’t been given away in the trailers, anyone with a half-decent understanding of Hollywood dramaturgy would have spotted it the instant T-1000 knifed the cop in the stomach. They just wouldn’t let a hero do that. Note that the T-800 doesn’t kill anybody when getting his clothes, and in fact gives his victim a chance to surrender them willingly. I think you are getting the chronology wrong [/QUOTE] What am I getting wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/85 "2006-07-18T23:19:45Z")
I figured out **Sleepy Hollow** and **So I Married An Axe Murderer** right at the beginning. Why? Miranda Richardson and Amanda Plummer, respectively. If some psycho nut is running around hacking people up, and Miranda Richardson or Amanda Plummer is the stars, co-star, in the background as an extra, or even offstage working as the key grip, you have your murderer. I figured out **The Bone Collector** , because Leland Orser was too big of a star at the time to be relegated to the machine repairman pogue without something “deeper” going on. And my wife sussed out the twist regarding the king’s father in **The Man in the Iron Mask** as soon as the first hint of foreshadowing showed up on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/86 "2006-07-18T23:51:13Z")
[QUOTE=Linty Fresh] I figured out **Sleepy Hollow** and **So I Married An Axe Murderer** right at the beginning. Why? Miranda Richardson and Amanda Plummer, respectively. If some psycho nut is running around hacking people up, and Miranda Richardson or Amanda Plummer is the stars, co-star, in the background as an extra, or even offstage working as the key grip, you have your murderer. [/QUOTE] I hate to nitpick but in **Sleepy Hollow** , Miranda Richardson, while being behind everything, was not the one who did the actual killing, that was Christopher Walken (or his “headless” stunt double) This is a variation on the rule mentioned earlier by Laughing Lagomorph. Basically, a familiar actor with near-top billing who doesn’t seem to do much during the most of the film will likely be revealed as the villain in the last reel. It was for this reason why for **Se7en** , Kevin Spacey wasn’t billed in the movie posters or included during the opening credits since it would’ve been too much of an obvious tip-off. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/87 "2006-07-20T17:04:22Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] Absolutely, he did. I had just never heard of anybody calling that before seeing _Jedi_. Obviously, **Sean’s** teacher is smarter than my friend’s mother. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Very smart. But very eccentric, in the way some geniuses can be. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719/88 "2006-07-20T17:38:56Z")
In _Holes_, the second I heard the nickname Zero, I had guessed he had the connection to Stanley’s family history that turned out to be the case. (and I hadn’t read the book before seeing the movie.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-movie-twists-you-saw-coming-a-mile-away/363719.md?page=4)