# Famous Sibling Rivalries

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 17, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205 "2012-05-17T13:47:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/1 "2012-05-17T13:47:43Z")

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I’m looking for examples of the most famous and/or successful sibling rivalries. Also, let’s stick to rivalries that were self-created, i.e. due to dislike/hatred for one another or siblings just being competitive. For example, we would exclude athletes who were forced to play against one another due to being on opposing teams or in the same competition.

In the world of business, I can think of 2 off the top of my head:

The Dassler brothers who founded Adidas, and then had a falling out after which one of the brothers founded Puma.

More recently, the Ambani brothers, who are the world’s richest sibling billionaires. They can’t stand each other but still live in the same mansion in Mumbai.

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**Author:** ![Jenova\_Tokka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@Jenova\_Tokka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenova_Tokka)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/2 "2012-05-17T13:52:53Z")

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The feud between Oscar-winning actresses Olivia de Havilland and Joan Fontaine is legendary. They apparently never got along, were jealous of each other’s Hollywood success, and haven’t spoken in 40 years.

The joke is neither will die until the other does first - both women are currently in their mid-90’s.

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**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/3 "2012-05-17T13:54:57Z")

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Would the Gallagher brothers of the band Oasis count?

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/4 "2012-05-17T14:00:43Z")

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> [@MegaBee](#):
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> Would the Gallagher brothers of the band Oasis count?

Good question. I don’t think either has done much outside Oasis, so that example is kind of in a grey area.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/5 "2012-05-17T14:06:36Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Good question. I don’t think either has done much outside Oasis, so that example is kind of in a grey area.

What’s the grey area? They’re famous, they’re siblings, they don’t get along. If these guys don’t count, I’m not sure what you’re looking for.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/6 "2012-05-17T14:07:57Z")

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Dear Abby and Ann Landers. (They were twins, too.) Ann started her column, and then Abby started one, and they were rivals for a very long time. IIRC, they made up eventually.

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/7 "2012-05-17T14:21:19Z")

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[Ed Milliband](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband)and [David Milliband](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miliband) competed to lead the current UK Labour party.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/8 "2012-05-17T14:22:34Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> What’s the grey area? They’re famous, they’re siblings, they don’t get along. If these guys don’t count, I’m not sure what you’re looking for.

In which area/field are they successful rivals? Sure, Oasis was a huge success but that was due to the brothers working together and not as rivals. And not getting along is not a prerequisite, although it is often the source of a successful rivalry. In retrospect, I should have asked for “famous and successful” examples in lieu of “famous and/or successful”.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/9 "2012-05-17T14:27:37Z")

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There are lots of great historical ones - you can look to King Richard the Lion Heart and his younger brother King John as an example …

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/10 "2012-05-17T14:30:36Z")

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Fictional, but Caine and Able come immediately to mind.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/11 "2012-05-17T14:50:50Z")

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Frank and Ken Shamrock

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/12 "2012-05-17T15:02:08Z")

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How about the other [Gallagher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)#Conflict_with_brother.27s_act) brothres, the comedians? _The_ Gallagher (Leo) took his brother (Ron) to court for impersonating his act. Leo won, and the most interesting thing to come from it was that Ron is prohibited from “intentionally bearing likeness to his brother.”

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/13 "2012-05-17T15:07:53Z")

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Ron and Clint Howard (not that much rivalry)

Eli and Peyton Manning

Christopher and Peter Hitchens

Robert and Cecil Terwilliger

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/14 "2012-05-17T15:21:51Z")

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The Jackson Family have a number of divisions - Michael vs. the rest, LaToya vs. the rest, etc,

Here in Canada, the McCain’s (of french fry fame) split with some of the family turning to Maple Leaf Foods, a partial competitor.

The Koch family forced out one brother a number of years ago.

There’s more fueds here:  
[http://www.cnbc.com/id/40716101/Famous\_Family\_Business\_Feuds](http://www.cnbc.com/id/40716101/Famous_Family_Business_Feuds)

From history, I have to imagine the de Medicis must have had at least one falling out. Same with all the Rothschilds. Did the Rockefellers have any falling outs?

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/15 "2012-05-17T15:27:30Z")

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I was trying to think of sports rivalries, but for hockey, which I’m most familiear, they seem to have been at least civil:

-Sutters  
-Richards  
-Stasneys  
-Sedins  
-Staals  
-Hunters  
-Hulls  
-Neidermeyers

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/16 "2012-05-17T16:09:57Z")

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Ray and Dave Davies.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/17 "2012-05-17T16:38:55Z")

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Currently in wrestling, Dustin and Cody Rhodes (Runnels) are half brothers that don’t get along so well in real life or in the ring.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/18 "2012-05-17T17:00:40Z")

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Not exactly a rivalry, but Bill and Charlie Bidwill were joint owners of the Chicago/St. Louis Cardinals after the death of their father and mother. They tried to run the team jointly for ten years. Finally, Bill bought Charlie out, and Charlie went on to be a big name in horse racing.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/19 "2012-05-17T17:18:54Z")

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Margaret Drabble and A. S. Byatt, English novelists.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-sibling-rivalries/622205/20 "2012-05-17T17:22:08Z")

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> [@MegaBee](#):
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> Would the Gallagher brothers of the band Oasis count?

Yes, and the Dupeys. Michaels and MJDesigns.

Father son fued. Son put father out of business

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