# Famous Ugly People

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 7, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366 "2010-10-07T16:01:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Silent\_Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Silent\_Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silent_Kal)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/41 "2010-10-07T18:36:04Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> He is probably not famous anymore, but [Don Mossi](http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Don_Mossi) was a baseball player in the 50s and 60s. Bill James described him this way:

If the list is to include athletes, you can’t leave off [Randy Johnson](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/320784-randy-johnson-was-as-nasty-as-they-came-no-seriously-this-dude-was-ugly-as-hell-and-believe-it-or-not-wasnt-the-ugliest-in-sports-let-the-countdown-begin).

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/42 "2010-10-07T18:56:10Z")

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Damn, 40 posts and no mention of Keith Richards.  
I’ll also throw an honorable mention to Steven Tyler.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/43 "2010-10-07T19:08:18Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Musical talent goes a long way toward counteracting the anti-fame effects of homeliness. I’m thinking especially of Mick Jagger and [Carly Simon](http://www.peoplequiz.com/biographies-35055-Carly_Simon.html).

Carly Simon homely? Not with those legs and that figure. Even her face (which is all you saw in the photo) isn’t that bad.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/44 "2010-10-07T19:19:35Z")

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> [@Silent\_Kal](#):
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> If the list is to include athletes, you can’t leave off [Randy Johnson](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/320784-randy-johnson-was-as-nasty-as-they-came-no-seriously-this-dude-was-ugly-as-hell-and-believe-it-or-not-wasnt-the-ugliest-in-sports-let-the-countdown-begin).

He’s pretty ordinary ugly. Throw in a repeatedly broken nose and a few missing teeth and you’ve got [hockey ugly.](http://www.uglymales.com/wc/sport/ice-hockey/mike-ricci/)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/45 "2010-10-07T19:21:24Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> > [@etv78](#):
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> > “It begins and ends with Brezhnev”
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> Brezhnev was actually one of the people I was thinking of as being remembered as ugly simply because a lot of people (in the US anyways) only remember him in his declining years (and from the Seinfeld bit). He was fairly handsome into middle age, but was an alcoholic and then had several strokes in the last decade of his life.

I was merely agreeing with “Seinfeld” 😃

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/46 "2010-10-07T19:23:26Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> > [@bibliophage](#):
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> > Musical talent goes a long way toward counteracting the anti-fame effects of homeliness. I’m thinking especially of Mick Jagger and [Carly Simon](http://www.peoplequiz.com/biographies-35055-Carly_Simon.html).
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> Carly Simon homely? Not with those legs and that figure. Even her face (which is all you saw in the photo) isn’t that bad.

She’s not bad at all. Her mouth is a bit too large, but I’d take her over big-mouthed Julia Roberts.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/47 "2010-10-07T19:30:06Z")

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Buddy Hackett  
Eli Walach  
Barbra Streisand

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/48 "2010-10-07T19:34:16Z")

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My gold standard for these types of threads is [John Madden](http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/04/16/nm_john_madden_090416_main.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/49 "2010-10-07T19:35:34Z")

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Richard Boone

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/50 "2010-10-07T19:44:23Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> Carly Simon homely? Not with those legs and that figure. Even her face (which is all you saw in the photo) isn’t that bad.

I don’t think she was ever “classically beautiful” – she has a prominent nose and jaw, and a large mouth. (And, hey, the lady’s 65 years old now!) But, yeah, she had a smokin’ hot body, and, when she was younger, I thought she was pretty danged fine.

Evidence:  
[http://www.locatealawyer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/carly\_simon.jpg](http://www.locatealawyer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/carly_simon.jpg)  
[![](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PiPliFY6s1E/SGqe3Z8lYLI/AAAAAAAAAtY/VOsNelY97YA/s320/carly+simon+anticipation.jpg) ](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PiPliFY6s1E/SGqe3Z8lYLI/AAAAAAAAAtY/VOsNelY97YA/s320/carly+simon+anticipation.jpg)  
[http://www.overthelimit.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/carly-simon.jpg](http://www.overthelimit.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/carly-simon.jpg)  
[http://upload.moldova.org/foto\_galerie/668/carly\_simon2.jpg](http://upload.moldova.org/foto_galerie/668/carly_simon2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![NoLAFIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@NoLAFIN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLAFIN)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/51 "2010-10-07T19:46:14Z")

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Yet another face for radio, [Garrison Keillor](http://www.slate.com/id/2143938/).

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/52 "2010-10-07T20:08:35Z")

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> [@NoLAFIN](#):
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> Yet another face for radio, [Garrison Keillor](http://www.slate.com/id/2143938/).

Eep. I always picture that’s how Rainn ["Dwight Shrute "](http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rainn-wilson.jpg) Wilson will look when he gets old.

[Gordon Ramsay](http://www.bfeedme.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Gordon%20Ramsay%20Conan.jpg) aint much of a looker to begin with but taking into account that he’s not quite fourty-four, oy vey!

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/53 "2010-10-07T20:44:59Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> [Gordon Ramsay](http://www.bfeedme.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Gordon%20Ramsay%20Conan.jpg) aint much of a looker to begin with but taking into account that he’s not quite fourty-four, oy vey!

I think Gordon’s kinda hot, actually. But that might be more for personality than physical appearance.

Getting back to the topic, though, and looking at your link: Conan O’Brien. That guy’s just weird-looking.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/54 "2010-10-07T21:04:26Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Ernest Borgnine  
> Sammy Davis  
> Lily Tomlin  
> Barbra Streisand

I’ve always thought Lily Tomlin is attractive, and I used to think Sammy Davis Jr. was also, back in his younger days, despite his underbite.

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**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/55 "2010-10-07T21:45:42Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Musical talent goes a long way toward counteracting the anti-fame effects of homeliness. I’m thinking especially of Mick Jagger and [Carly Simon](http://www.peoplequiz.com/biographies-35055-Carly_Simon.html).

Mick Jagger was very good-looking as a lad. See:

[![](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NGgy4WmOLdk/SxNQ4-qRHwI/AAAAAAAAOYU/osLD85jwsDI/s320/mick%2Bjagger%2B2.jpg) ](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NGgy4WmOLdk/SxNQ4-qRHwI/AAAAAAAAOYU/osLD85jwsDI/s320/mick%2Bjagger%2B2.jpg)  
[http://rwrant.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/MickJagger-281x300.jpg](http://rwrant.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/MickJagger-281x300.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Kim\_o\_the\_Concrete\_Jungle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@Kim\_o\_the\_Concrete\_Jungle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kim_o_the_Concrete_Jungle)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/56 "2010-10-07T21:59:23Z")

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It seems to me a lot of people are on the list because they’re old. That’s not very fair.

I think I’d agree with Janis Joplin, though. She looked like a skeezy biker moll. Those late 60s fashions were a bit unfortunate.

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_Doubt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Angel\_of\_Doubt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_Doubt)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/57 "2010-10-07T22:01:45Z")

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Quentin Tarantino - strangely, he seems to have improved in looks lately.

> **[Quentin Tarantino | Writer, Actor, Producer](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/)**
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> Known for: Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, From Dusk Till Dawn

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/58 "2010-10-07T23:51:27Z")

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[Luis Guzmán](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0350079/) is fairly unattractive.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/59 "2010-10-08T00:43:34Z")

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Man, you people are incredibly harsh!! You interpret “ugly” VERY VERY loosely, as “not Hollywood-level attractive” in most cases!

About the only people named so far that I think could be considered genuinely ugly are Vincent Schiavelli, Rondo Hatten and yes, Susan Boyle. Maybe garrison Keillor.

Everyone else ranges from average/plain to very attractive, even beautiful. (Carly Simon, Barbra Streisand)

Janis Joplin wasn’t ugly, although I can’t argue with her overall “skanky biker chick junkie” vibe. But genetically she was just plain.

I think ugly denotes extreme degrees of unattractive, usually involving a feature or features that are actually distorted, as in [Treacher-Collins Syndrome](http://wiki.ggc.usg.edu/mediawiki/index.php/Treacher-Collins_Syndrome). As long as all the parts fall within relatively average parameters, it’s pretty hard to find people who are really _**[ugly](http://www.ohlookaforum.com/resources/image/6081)**_.

**WARNING** : the link on the last word goes to a very graphic image of a seriously disfigured kitty who is apparently happy and healthy, since his disfigurement was when he was a few weeks old and he’s now all grown up, but it is truly shocking to look at. He is a truly ugly kitty.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/famous-ugly-people/556366/60 "2010-10-08T02:51:33Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Janis Joplin wasn’t ugly, although I can’t argue with her overall “skanky biker chick junkie” vibe. But genetically she was just plain.

Well, she _was_ voted “ugliest man on campus” at her college.

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