# Fanatical Michael Jackson supporters are stupid **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851 "2005-02-01T21:02:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/1 "2005-02-01T21:02:01Z")
Let me clarify: black people who think the only reason Michael Jackson is on trial is because white people don’t like to see rich black people are stupid. Fucking morons in fact. I’ve heard about a dozen black people interviewed on radio about the trial and every one of them has espoused some variation on the theme that if MJ were poor and/or white he wouldn’t be being “persecuted.” More than one invoked OJ. Yeah, I remember that episode of South Park too. Who would have thought that there were people out there who actually believed it? Don’t these idiots think that, if White America were really so terrified of black people with money that Oprah would’ve been led away in shackles years ago? Yes, I am aware that my sample size is small. Yes I am sure there were plenty of black people interviewed whose contrary comments didn’t make air. Not pitting them, just the lackwits who believe in their hearts that MJ is on trial for being rich and black. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/2 "2005-02-01T21:07:00Z")
Since when has Michael Jackson been black? Have any of those people you cite seen a picture of MJ? He clearly has been scampering away from his race and his gender as fast as he can for lo these many years. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/3 "2005-02-01T21:11:48Z")
Is MJ considered human? All that silicone and surgery…not sure if he qualifies, anymore. I think I would have to look hard and long to find an black person who believes that MJ is being scapegoated here. Then again, the lack of critical thinking skills is rampant throughout the races, genders, ages etc. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/4 "2005-02-01T21:17:17Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Since when has Michael Jackson been black? Have any of those people you cite seen a picture of MJ? He clearly has been scampering away from his race and his gender as fast as he can for lo these many years. What’s ironic about black people rabidly defending Simpson and Jackson is that both OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson strive to be white or be around “white culture”. Simpson, for instance, married a white woman and basically only hung around rich white people. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/5 "2005-02-01T21:17:28Z")
That guy ain’t human…he Ayyyleeeee-in. ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/6 "2005-02-01T21:19:52Z")
> [@Agrippina](#): > > Simpson, for instance, married a white woman and basically only hung around rich white people. I am not really reading this, right? Because I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to actually give credence to this theory. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/7 "2005-02-01T21:20:58Z")
I have a feeling that, based on the title alone, this thread is gonna end up in a trainwreck, but I’ll just comment that I was under the impression that Mr. Jackson, if he is being persecuted, is being persecuted for being rich and weird, not for being rich and black. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/8 "2005-02-01T21:21:02Z")
[Mr. Jefferson] No, that’s ignorant. You’re being ignorant. [/Mr. Jefferson] ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/9 "2005-02-01T21:21:39Z")
For the record, on the local black talk radio station that I listen to when none of the NPR stations are playing ATC or Morning Edition, all the hosts were pretty much making fun of him. After a news segment that featured audio of all the Jacko fans waiting outside the courthouse when he made his appearence, the host said “I’m trying to figure out if they’re screaming because, you know, he’s Michael Jackson, and they love him, or he’s Michael Jackson, and they’re afraid he’s gonna touch them.” I thought it was pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/10 "2005-02-01T21:22:21Z")
Anyone of any ethnicity or skin color who defends Michael Jackson is stupid. There sure seem to be quite a lot of delusional fans of his that are white as well. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/11 "2005-02-01T21:25:22Z")
Holy Smeg, but your title is misleading and inciting. I’d seen your posts before, and didn’t think it could really mean what a literal interpretation would insist it means, but my gosh! Expect to be castigated for it. As for the subject at hand, yeah, you’re gonna have that small percentage of folks who believe in something like ‘My color, right or wrong!’ Is it right? Is it wrong? Can’t say. There may be such a thing as institutionalized racism, but it’s my belief that in many cases, a big factor is a form of paranoia. For the kneejerk crowd, note that I have taken great care in my wording, so as to avoid ruling out the views/beliefs of one side or the other. Fence-sitter? I’d like to think that rational adults can see both sides. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/12 "2005-02-01T21:27:39Z")
> [@LifeOnWry](#): > > I am not really reading this, right? Because I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to actually give credence to this theory. I must be stupid, it makes sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/13 "2005-02-01T21:32:30Z")
I’ve been following the Fametracker thread on him, which is hilarious in its snark. Strange as it may sound, CEMJ (crazy, evil Michael Jackson) is probably not as crazy as his fans. One woman quit her job of 14 years to spend time at the courthouse supporting him. Seven girls from Norway (or was it Sweden, I can’t remember) flew in to support him. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/14 "2005-02-01T21:40:15Z")
> [@LifeOnWry](#): > > I am not really reading this, right? Because I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to actually give credence to this theory. Which part is the “theory”? That he married a white woman? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/15 "2005-02-01T21:42:10Z")
Color me confused, too. What, exactly, is **LifeonWry** contesting? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/16 "2005-02-01T21:45:34Z")
> [@lisacurl](#): > > Anyone of any ethnicity or skin color who defends Michael Jackson is stupid. I have not been following this case but he’s not been convicted by the jury yet, has he? I thought they were still in the pre-trial crap. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/17 "2005-02-01T21:49:13Z")
> [@The Devil's Grandmother](#): > > I have not been following this case but he’s not been convicted by the jury yet, has he? I thought they were still in the pre-trial crap. It’s pro forma, isn’t it? MJ is guilty, he just hasn’t been formally convicted for what it is painfully obvious he has been doing. This should be a slam dunk for the CA prosecutor’s office. (Of course, I said that about OJ, too, so don’t go by me.) ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/18 "2005-02-01T21:50:18Z")
My prediction: -Long trial -Court TV ratings go thru the roof -Jackson found not guilty -A Nation mourns -Jackson opens chain of daycares ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/19 "2005-02-01T21:54:47Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > It’s pro forma, isn’t it? MJ is guilty, he just hasn’t been formally convicted for what it is painfully obvious he has been doing. This should be a slam dunk for the CA prosecutor’s office. (Of course, I said that about OJ, too, so don’t go by me.) I read this [article about the trial at cnn.com](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/01/michael.jackson.ap/index.html). It says they are still in jury selection. If Jackson is pleading guilty or no-contest why are they having jury selection? gobear, are you whooshin’ me? ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/20 "2005-02-01T21:59:32Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Don’t these idiots think that, if White America were really so terrified of black people with money that Oprah would’ve been led away in shackles years ago? Anyone care to hazard a guess on what Orca would be charged with? 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851.md?page=2)