# Fanatical Michael Jackson supporters are stupid **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851 "2005-02-01T21:02:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/41 "2005-02-01T23:09:56Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > You’re basically an asshole aren’t you. You’re certainly entitled to that opinion. > [@brick](#): > > I don’t know if you have been watching the trial coverage, but I see more white people out there with signs than black people. I wouldn’t waste my time watching the trial coverage. I prefer my news to be more newsworthy. Go back and read the last paragraph of my OP, the one you conveniently failed to quote. > [@brick](#): > > The idea that powerful black people are targeted by the gov’t, white people, etc. is not unfounded. I didn’t say “powerful.” I said rich. But show me the foundation that MJ is being targeted for being white. Show me the foundation that any wealthy black Americans are being targeted or have been targeted for persecution by law enforcement or any other arm of the government. > [@brick](#): > > I would supect that many of the people you heard saying this may be over 40. I only heard them on the radio, but their voices didn’t sound particularly old. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/42 "2005-02-01T23:10:43Z")
> [@LifeOnWry](#): > > I am not really reading this, right? Because I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to actually give credence to this theory. What’s the term I’ve heard black people use about certain people of their race that try to gain the acceptance of white people, sometimes by adopting their culture, like Simpson? Oh yeah, “Uncle Tom”. That’s what I was thinking of when I wrote what I did, which possibly came out wrong. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/43 "2005-02-01T23:17:05Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > …which is probably the only safe thing I can say in this thread, and besides, what **LOW** comes up with for an answer should be intriguing! Is _Polycarp_ asking for naughty pictures? I think my brain just melted. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/44 "2005-02-01T23:18:50Z")
Another vote for potentially interesting OP (“people who think Jackson is just being persecuted on account of his race are stupid”) ruined by inflammatory and trollesque thread title (“Black people are stupid”). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/45 "2005-02-01T23:20:13Z")
> [@The Devil's Grandmother](#): > > :eek: What!?! > :smack: Sorry, I had no idea. Carry on with the lynching of the rich weirdo. Hello, where the HELL have you been for the last year or so! ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/46 "2005-02-01T23:32:11Z")
> [@Agrippina](#): > > What’s the term I’ve heard black people use about certain people of their race that try to gain the acceptance of white people, sometimes by adopting their culture, like Simpson? Oh yeah, “Uncle Tom”. That’s what I was thinking of when I wrote what I did, which possibly came out wrong. I’ve also heard “white shadows.” People have too much time on their hands to come up with this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/47 "2005-02-01T23:32:24Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hello, where the HELL have you been for the last year or so! I think you hit the nail on the head. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/48 "2005-02-01T23:32:45Z")
Jesus Otto, don’t you think you could make your point without such an incredibly obnoxious thread title? How would you like it if someone started a thread that was titled "Ass fucking faggots deserve to die! only to find it was pitting the lack of precautions and unsafe sex practices of some younger gay men? Would you think that was clever? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/49 "2005-02-01T23:34:53Z")
Maybe **Otto** could ask the mods to change the title of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/50 "2005-02-01T23:36:39Z")
I agree, change the title. ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/51 "2005-02-01T23:36:56Z")
> [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > Eek. Note to self: when in doubt remember to use non gender specific pronouns. 🙂 You of all people should know better. I seem to recall a certain trainwreck a while back in which it was assumed you were female based on the “ette” in your username. Yes? > [@The Devil's Grandmother](#): > > Is Polycarp asking for naughty pictures? > > I think my brain just melted. Don’t worry, it was probably some homeless guy who sits next to him at the library. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/52 "2005-02-01T23:41:41Z")
> [@Rufus Xavier](#): > > You of all people should know better. I seem to recall a certain trainwreck a while back in which it was assumed you were female based on the “ette” in your username. Yes? Yes. :o ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/53 "2005-02-01T23:44:08Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Jesus Otto, don’t you think you could make your point without such an incredibly obnoxious thread title? I agree. This whole thread seems like a vehicle for that stupid title. A couple of black people said something that’s being said by people of all ages/races/colors/creeds, etc. and should’ve been expected by anyone who has been alive for more than 10 years, and we’re supposed join in the fuss and forget the stupid-ass title of this thread? Way to be “cleverly” provocative, Otto :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/54 "2005-02-01T23:46:33Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > **Cite?** 😃 > …which is probably the only safe thing I can say in this thread, and besides, what **LOW** comes up with for an answer should be intriguing! … … … Upon further reflection, I’ve decided that what your imagination conjures is probably more intriguing than any photographic evidence would be. OR - I can relate to you my latest perimenopausal meltdown. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/55 "2005-02-01T23:49:23Z")
> [@Rufus Xavier](#): > > Don’t worry, it was probably some homeless guy who sits next to him at the library. \ _cough_cough\* Well, then he’ll have to be happy with the testimony of three honorable men then, ok? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/56 "2005-02-01T23:51:27Z")
Otto, you have always impressed me as being a smart, kind, and clear thinking person, so when I saw your thread title, I was both surprised and disappointed. Please ask the mods to let you change it. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/57 "2005-02-02T00:01:27Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Yes? MAN, you really gotta watch who you’re deifying around here! 😃 > [@pizzabrat](#): > > Really? Can you point out some of his previous posts that would make a title like this surprising? You caught me. I really wasn’t speaking from a familiarity of the general tenor of **Otto’s** posts, but was giving him the benefit of the doubt. In which case, I guess I should’ve stuck to ‘_thread title bad_’. I speak honestly when I say thank you for a posting lesson learned. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/58 "2005-02-02T00:08:44Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > _sigh_ :rolleyes: > > Stranger What **Stranger** said. If I weren’t so lazy I’d pit you ( **Agrippina** to Alexandria and back. But I am lazy. Being Black and all. Just keepin’ it real. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/59 "2005-02-02T00:09:40Z")
I dunno. I think he might be emotionally and mentally stunted enough that he might not actually be molesting children. Maybe he really is a 10 year or at heart (or at brain), and likes having sleepovers with other children. He’s crazy enough it might just be true. ---
**Author:** ![Gfab912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@Gfab912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfab912)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851/60 "2005-02-02T00:19:22Z")
As dangerous and stupid as the title of this thread is, I’m not surprised by the general attitude here. Go on! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanatical-michael-jackson-supporters-are-stupid/287851.md?page=4)