# Fantastic Four trailer now up...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 19, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479 "2005-01-19T02:09:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/41 "2005-01-19T18:26:49Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> **levdrakon** , I’m with you: the Invisible Woman’s invisibility powers are mental and the force fields shouldn’t be coming out her hands. BuuuuT I just checked my ESSENTIAL FANTASTIC FOUR Vol. 2 and in issue #22 (Good catch, **Kaitlyn** ), when Sue first uses her force field powers, there are instances where the force fieds are drawn coming out her hands. But it becomes equally clear that the more her power is shown in subsequent issues, the more Kirby seems to make it plain the the force shields emanate from her mind. This was pretty much canon by Byrne’s run. In fact, I distinctly remember a time when Sue subdues the Hulk by suffocating him in an invisible bubble, and when he punches the force shield, Sue cries out how much it’s hurting her _head_. (No cite, I just remember this.) Hollywood being Hollywood, I’m guessing they thought Sue blasting things with her fingertips is more “heroic” or something. Bleeecch.

I stand corrected then. In all my years of reading the FF, I could have sworn her force fields never emanated from anywhere but her forehead. And I remember that scene with the Hulk, too.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/42 "2005-01-19T19:40:14Z")

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Eh, I think it looks cool.

I have no problem tying Doom’s origin into the rest of the FF’s. It leaves less to explain in the first movie (and I don’t think having him be an established thread would work, either; it’d be weird having this super-villain in super-armor just hanging around). Plus, as **levdrakon** noted, his origin _is_ pretty dorky, not to mention complicated. Not that I don’t like it, but I think it’s something that works better in comics than it would in a movie.

Can’t say I miss the Fantasticar. It might be in the movie, for all we know (although if it is, it hopefully doesn’t look anything like that bathtub they rode around in at first).

I think the special effects look fine. The Thing looks about as good as I could expect a live-action Thing to look (and his more smushed, less rocky look reminds me of the early Thing, before his edges got so sharp).

And because it cannot be said enough, Chris Evans is absolutely gorgeous. What a shame it would be if his flame powers burned off his clothes. Crying, crying shame.

Of course, I liked Daredevil. A lot.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/43 "2005-01-19T20:13:59Z")

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What I don’t like is that Doom seems to have powers: the electrical emanations from his hands. Doom has some magic and a lot of tech. Last I heard, no powers.

Other than that, I don’t think it looks at all terrible. Jessica Alba is incredibly hot. I like Michael Chiklis as the Thing, and the part where he gets hit by the truck looked pretty good. Human Torch looked about as good as can be expected. Sure, he looked like a fireball, but isn’t he supposed to? As far as Reed, **Kaspar** has it right. The less stretchy the better. It looked kind of ridiculous in the comic book. It’ll likely look worse on the big screen.

I’ll say that I’m cautiously optimistic. This may be X-Men or Spider Man good. I’m doubtful of it being SM2 or XM2 good, and I’m hoping it won’t be DD or Catwoman bad.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/44 "2005-01-19T21:25:08Z")

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> [@Freejooky](#):
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> Actually, Doom’s costume is the worst to me - he looks like a skinny weakling.

Actually, [Doom’s costume](http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Fantastic_Four/The_Movie/Movie_Stills&image=drdoom.jpg&img=&tt=) is one of the few positives I’ve found in this movie so far.

> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> What I don’t like is that Doom seems to have powers: the electrical emanations from his hands. Doom has some magic and a lot of tech. Last I heard, no powers.

I don’t think there’s that much difference between super-powers and magic anyway…

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/45 "2005-01-19T21:59:37Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> Word. And where the fuck is Ben’s cigar? The Thing ain’t The Thing without a stogie.

“Cuppa” Joe Quesada said no more smoking when he took over as EIC - what - 6 or 7 years ago? Wolverine doesn’t even smoke anymore.

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**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/46 "2005-01-21T16:20:47Z")

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UPDATE:

Just saw a F4 bootleg promo reel over at [iFilm.com](http://iFilm.com) viral videos . It features more clips from the film including your obligatory “this movie was great to work on” clips from the actors.

The most surprising one by far was from the actor playing Dr Doom who said of his armor:

that his character gets a cut on his forehead after being exposed to the gamma rays and then metal starts growing all over his body. So it would seem that in the film version Doom doesn’t wear armor, he has actually transformed into some sort of cyborg.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/47 "2005-01-21T17:10:03Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> “Cuppa” Joe Quesada said no more smoking when he took over as EIC - what - 6 or 7 years ago? Wolverine doesn’t even smoke anymore.

While I can understand this generally, in Wolverine’s case, this is just stupid. Claremont addressed this circa 150-160. Kitty is sitting with Logan while Logan smokes a cigar. Kitty asks if she can smoke, and he lets her, with predictable results. Logan explains that she shouldn’t smoke, but it’s ok for him because he heals the damage as fast as it’s done, and she wouldn’t.

Much more effective of a “don’t smoke” message if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantastic-four-trailer-now-up/285479/48 "2005-01-21T17:33:49Z")

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> [@Kaitlyn](#):
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> Much more effective of a “don’t smoke” message if you ask me.

That’s true, in that one instance. But that was, what, 20 years ago? How strong is of a message is that compared with Wolverine constantly smoking in, like, 20 books every month?

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