# Fantasy football general discussion 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 4, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874 "2010-06-04T02:44:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/101 "2010-10-26T13:31:06Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Because the coaching grades don’t correlate strongly with GM grade, or because it varies for the same owner in different leagues, or what? Because everyone is settling in the B range. > [@](#): > > No big deal. But wouldn’t you just have to swap out the variable that stores potential score for the one that stores the actual scores? The actual scores have to be calculated/stored anyway, in order to do the Actual Score / Potential score percentage. You’re thinking of changing it from showing potential to actual scores, which would be exactly as easy as you describe. I’m talking about adding a second table on the right, which requires more effort. That requires doing the same win/loss analysis on two different values and retaining both, which means genericizing the logic that does those calculations, plus the hassle of formatting a second table on the right. It’s not hard, but it’s not easy, either. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/102 "2010-10-27T12:53:14Z")
So is Dwayne Bowe actually good now or were the last two weeks a fluke? Bowe was one of the few preseason predictions I had that I was wrong about so far - I thought he was going to come in with his head on straight, Cassel would be servicible, and the Chiefs running game would be good enough to open up the offense. So I invested heavily in him, drafting him in two leagues and snagging him off the waiver wire in another. But it looked like he was totally useless. Drops and a poor passing offense. But I stuck with him and the last two weeks he’s had 4 TDs and some good yardage, although it was against some of the worst secondaries in the league. Did he finally get his shit together or is he going back into suckville? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/103 "2010-11-06T06:51:33Z")
**Aggregate Rank through week 8** ## Team…Record…%…Lgs…Coach furt…128-64…67%…2…81% B- SenorBeef…261-139…65%…4…90% B+ RetroVertigo…202-126…62%…3…81% B- Ellis Dee…214-138…61%…4…86% B Munch…203-141…59%…3…90% A- Frosted Glass…136-104…57%…2…91% A- Hamlet…230-186…55%…4…87% B RNATB…101-91…53%…2…82% B- Petey…92-84…52%…2…83% B- Omniscient…169-183…48%…4…84% B Justin\_Bailey…112-128…47%…2…84% B VarlosZ…185-231…44%…4…85% B Jules Andre…72-104…41%…2…87% B dalej42…77-163…32%…2…82% B- d\_odds…34-206…14%…2…81% B- Seems like there should be more people in multiple leagues. I’m too tired to check tonight but maybe tomorrow. Is anyone here in multiple SDMB leagues without being listed there? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/104 "2010-11-07T14:19:44Z")
I think the standings in my league are more even than I’ve ever seen. 7 teams at 4-3, 4 at 3-4, and one at 2-5. (We started a week late because of a problem with our original draft). This league has been running with mostly the same guys for years, and there’s usually somebody undefeated at least through week 5 or 6. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/105 "2010-11-07T14:55:40Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Did he finally get his shit together or is he going back into suckville? Well, who the hell else is Cassel going to throw to? I don’t think Bowe has ever really been the problem; it’s Cassel who sucks the most. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/106 "2010-11-07T22:38:25Z")
Big night from Rodgers could give me 3 wins. If Garrard can do it… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/107 "2010-11-07T23:04:56Z")
Giants have 330 yards of offense and 5 touchdowns in a little over 35 minutes. On the road. In the Pacific time zone. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/108 "2010-11-07T23:07:59Z")
Just think how many yards that will be once you convert it back to eastern time. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/109 "2010-11-07T23:11:44Z")
Currency, too. Isn’t Seattle in Canadia? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/110 "2010-11-08T01:21:42Z")
I’ve had lots of 3-1 weeks across my four fantasy teams, but I’ve yet to achieve going 4-0 in any week. If Rodgers has a good night tonight, barring something unusual, I’ll finally have it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/111 "2010-11-08T22:26:08Z")
Well, there’s an outside chance I can still lose, but it looks like I’ve locked up my first 4-0 week. Not only that, but I’ve moved into being [the top scorer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU) in all 3 SDMB leagues we drafted in this year (all pro, auction, big) - I’m not topping the dynasty league, but I’m hampered by poor draft decisions from last year. Doing decently there though, in 4th I think. Bow down to your fantasy overlord. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/112 "2010-11-09T04:57:43Z")
Holy crap. I was so consumed with the All-Pro league and my heart breaking last play of the game loss that I didn’t realize that I managed a GIANT 48 point comeback to win by .29 points n the Dynasty league. If CJ had dropped that damned pass or if Shipley gets into the endzone I would have won both games. All in all the All-Pro loss is a bigger deal since my team is abysmal in the Dynasty, but when you look at the number of players I had on bye or hurt this week the Dynasty is more amazing. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/113 "2010-11-09T08:29:59Z")
So I’ve been trying to trade Peyton Hillis this week. It’s not that I’m down on him, but on two of my rosters I have Dwayne Bowe on my bench and after getting 5 or 6 TDs in 4 games now yet having too Calvin Johnson and Bradon Lloyd in one league and Owens/Andre Johnson/Calvin ahead of him in another, I wasn’t gonna start him much. And Hillis was my 2nd rb in each, behind Peterson and Foster. So I wanted to package Hillis and Bowe together for a top RB with a good playoff schedule like Chris Johnson or Darren McFadden. The offers all got rejected or ignored. But I’m thinking maybe I already have my top RB prospect and I should probably just stay put. Where would you rank Hillis’ value for the rest of the year? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/114 "2010-11-14T00:15:40Z")
So I’ve always thought that getting the top seeds going into the playoff was never enough of an advantage in FF. It’s not like you get anything like the home field advantage of the real world. The games are seeded like a real playoff bracket, so that 1 plays 4, and 2 plays 3, which in theory is a reward for the #1 seed, but given the way the matchups can vary from week to week, it could be that the #4 seed is more threatning than the #3. One idea I’ve had is that the #1 seed gets to pick the guy he plays in the playoffs after looking at the matchups that week. In a league with more than 4 playoff seeds, the #1 could pick, then the #2 could pick out of the remaining teams, etc. And you’d rearrange the schedule based on their picks. Anyone like that idea? If not, do you have some other method to reward higher seeds in playoffs? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/115 "2010-11-14T19:02:01Z")
Peyton Hillis is matchup proof and he’s having sex with all of your mothers. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/116 "2010-11-14T19:04:14Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > So I’ve always thought that getting the top seeds going into the playoff was never enough of an advantage in FF. It’s not like you get anything like the home field advantage of the real world. > > The games are seeded like a real playoff bracket, so that 1 plays 4, and 2 plays 3, which in theory is a reward for the #1 seed, but given the way the matchups can vary from week to week, it could be that the #4 seed is more threatning than the #3. > > One idea I’ve had is that the #1 seed gets to pick the guy he plays in the playoffs after looking at the matchups that week. In a league with more than 4 playoff seeds, the #1 could pick, then the #2 could pick out of the remaining teams, etc. And you’d rearrange the schedule based on their picks. > > Anyone like that idea? If not, do you have some other method to reward higher seeds in playoffs? IME, the wild card team is almost always not the worst team, and often the second best. Love the idea. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/117 "2010-11-14T23:34:40Z")
I’ve had Dwayne Bowe sitting on my bench in a few leagues for the most part. I’ve been trying to deal him but no one is interested despite him scoring like 7 or 8 TDs in 4-5 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/118 "2010-11-15T00:05:59Z")
Then start him and trade the other guys. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/119 "2010-11-15T00:09:16Z")
Yeah, I may. I’ve got Calvin Johnson and Brandon Lloyd ahead of him in one league and Terrel Owens, Andre Johnson, and Calvin Johnson in the other. The thing is - in both those leagues, my teams are so awesome there’s barely anything I can ask for in return that would improve my team. In the all pro league I’m starting Rodgers, Johnson, Lloyd, Peterson, Zach Miller, Hillis and the GB D. In the auction I’m starting Rodgers/Owens/Johnson/Johnson/Foster/Hillis/Gates/Steelers. Over the last week I’ve been trying to package Hillis and Bowe for Chris Johnson or Darren McFadden but I’m not convinced at this point that’s even a great idea. Hillis has been consistent and great. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874/120 "2010-11-15T02:34:49Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Holy crap. I was so consumed with the All-Pro league and my heart breaking last play of the game loss that I didn’t realize that I managed a GIANT 48 point comeback to win by .29 points n the Dynasty league. If CJ had dropped that damned pass or if Shipley gets into the endzone I would have won both games. > > All in all the All-Pro loss is a bigger deal since my team is abysmal in the Dynasty, but when you look at the number of players I had on bye or hurt this week the Dynasty is more amazing. OK, what the fuck. Apparently there was a stat correction or something in the Dynasty league that cost me my victory. I went from a .29 point win to a .21 point loss. Somewhere I lost .5 points, but there isn’t anyone listed in Yahoo’s stat correction page that played for either team. I call bullshit! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion-2010/541874.md?page=7)