# Fantasy football general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955 "2009-07-23T02:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/221 "2009-09-02T14:16:27Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > That’s kind of the way I’m leaning. Straight up, Mcfadden for Sproles is a good deal. I’m just concerned about LT’s health. Really? I completely understand the need to handcuff, but McFadden has a ton of potential and, with Jamarcus basically sucking, is going to be the focus of the offense. Sproles, you know what you get, and he’s a fine backup, but you’ll never start him unless LT is hurt. McFadden, however, could be huge this year. Granted it’s all potential, but I wouldn’t make that trade unless Orton were really important to me. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/222 "2009-09-02T14:29:31Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Really? I completely understand the need to handcuff, but McFadden has a ton of potential and, with Jamarcus basically sucking, is going to be the focus of the offense. Yup. In addition, handcuffing isn’t nearly as important this year, as there are going to be so many RBBC situations that there will always be RB points on the bench to be had. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/223 "2009-09-02T14:46:23Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Really? I completely understand the need to handcuff, but McFadden has a ton of potential and, with Jamarcus basically sucking, is going to be the focus of the offense. Sproles, you know what you get, and he’s a fine backup, but you’ll never start him unless LT is hurt. McFadden, however, could be huge this year. Granted it’s all potential, but I wouldn’t make that trade unless Orton were really important to me. In what crazy universe are the odds of a Raiders draft pick working out better than 50%? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/224 "2009-09-03T07:07:59Z")
How does yahoo do their projected rankings? I mean - if you actually sort their season projections by fantasy points scored and look at the projected points and projected rankings they often don’t match up. For instance, using stock yahoo scoring league, based on the “projected” ranking, yahoo has these quarterbacks: (Name - projection ranking overall - projected scoring) Drew Brees - 15 - 292.10 Peyton Manning - 21 - 274.40 Tom Brady - 23 - 316.55 Tony Romo - 33 - 227.77 Kurt Warner - 35 - 289.04 Philip Rivers - 37 - 235.83 Aaron Rodgers - 38 - 295.82 I thought maybe there’s some room to adjust the numbers depending on the consistency, injury history, etc. of a player - so maybe if Peyton Manning and Matt Shaub were projected to have similar numbers, Manning would have the ranking edge because of his health and consistency. Fine. But look at the example above. Aaron Rodgers is projected to score the 2nd most points of any QB, yet his projected ranking is 7th among quarterbacks. Kurt Warner is ahead of him, and it’s certainly not like Warner is less of an injury risk or something along those lines. Is the “projected” ranking based on the big board of whoever runs their FF site? Is it based on average draft position somehow? What’s the deal? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/225 "2009-09-07T22:09:46Z")
Stafford’s been named the starter in Detroit. Does that destroy Megatron’s value? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/226 "2009-09-07T22:22:12Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Stafford’s been named the starter in Detroit. Does that destroy Megatron’s value? The guy had 1300+ and 12 TDs with Orlovsky, Kitna and Culpepper throwing to him. He’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/227 "2009-09-07T23:05:56Z")
I did my pay leagues draft last night. Its a 10-man, PPR, with optional TE league. I had 1st overall pick in a snake draft. QB: Tony Romo David Garrard RB: Adrian Peterson Darren McFadden Reggie Bush Ray Rice Chester Taylor WR: Calvin Johnson Greg Jennings Chad OchoCinco Brandon Marshall Steve Breaston Josh Morgan DEF: Philidelphia San Francisco K: David Akers Robbie Gould We Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1RB/WR, 1 DEF, 1 K We play all TD’s equal 6 points, so we had two QB’s taken in the first round. Before someone asks why I took two kickers and two defenses, every trade or pickup cost ten dollars, so it was a cost cutting move. I definitely have the best WR corps of all the teams, but I’m worried about my RB’s if Peterson goes down. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/228 "2009-09-07T23:15:06Z")
I’m worried about your RB2 even if all of them stay healthy. Love your WRs, though, and your QBs are fine. Still, with a 3-RB league you should probably have gotten at least a second full-time starter. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/229 "2009-09-07T23:39:32Z")
Agreed. I’m not big at all on McFadden- see preceding pages for the reasoning- and I think you’d do well to package him and one of your wideouts for a top-flight rusher. In what is effectively a 2-WR league you’re going to be leaving an awful lot of points on the bench every week. You could trade Ochocinco or Marshall without really harming your depth at all. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/230 "2009-09-08T00:07:09Z")
In PPR, I might even put Forte above AP. If the guy that has him has another very good #2 RB, then I’d think about packaging AP and McFadden together for those two. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/231 "2009-09-08T01:21:02Z")
Agreed on the running back situation. I’m planning on playing match-ups with my RB2 (if Rice becomes the starter like I think he will). If Marshall becomes productive I will package him for a more solid #2 RB. I hopefully got lucky with Marshall, as no one wanted to touch him, and he fell to me in the 7th round. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/232 "2009-09-08T02:06:15Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > In PPR, I might even put Forte above AP. If the guy that has him has another very good #2 RB, then I’d think about packaging AP and McFadden together for those two. I would wait a year before assuming Forte will catch a lot of passes. Cutler can’t/won’t throw checkdowns; Denver RBs caught 19 passes _between them_ last year. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/233 "2009-09-08T14:31:09Z")
Well, here’s the team I drafted last night. I have no real idea how this will go since I basically haven’t had time to look at anything (new baby in the house) and this league has some odd rules: 6 points for passing TDs No PPR High points for Defense Starting: QB, RB, WR, TE, DEF, K, WR/RB, WR/RB, WR/TE My team: QB: P. Manning, M. Schaub RB: A. Peterson, S. Jackson, J. Jones, T. Hightower, D. Ward, R. Williams WR: Ochocinco, R. Williams, S. Moss, T. Ginn TE: Gates DEF: Pittsburgh K: Elam ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/234 "2009-09-08T15:55:31Z")
Critique this team. Our draft was last night; 10 team league with regular scoring. Price paid on right. I’m frankly thrilled - to me it looks like a deep, deep team with the only weakness being average RB starters: QB Aaron Rodgers $24 RB Steve Slaton $35 RB Ryan Grant $24 RB/WR Marques Colston $20 WR Antonio Bryant $9 WR Larry Fitzgerald $46 TE Tony Gonzalez $17 D/ST Ravens D/ST $3 K Mason Crosby $1 BE Jamal Lewis $10 BE Cedric Benson $5 BE Donald Driver $2 BE Steve Smith NYG $1 BE Matt Hasselbeck $1 BE John Carlson $1 BE Julius Jones $1 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/235 "2009-09-08T15:56:42Z")
What are the starting spots? ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/236 "2009-09-08T15:59:06Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What are the starting spots? As shown on the left - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, K, D/ST, and 1 RB/WR flex. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/237 "2009-09-08T16:05:19Z")
Oh, right, duh. A little thin at RB - I’d like to see either a stud on top, or 2 2nd-tier and a 3rd tier starter. Jamal Lewis is broken down and you’d be better off spending that $10 on someone like McCoy. Very good value on Aaron Rodgers and Steve Slaton. Usually I wouldn’t use a draft slot on a backup TE, and instead grab some sleeper WR or RB. Overall, I like it. Your approach looks somewhat similar to mine, except I didn’t have a big cost Fitzgerald type pick, and I’m a bit more stacked on cheaper high upside guys. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/238 "2009-09-08T16:20:54Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > My team: > > QB: P. Manning, M. Schaub > RB: A. Peterson, S. Jackson, J. Jones, T. Hightower, D. Ward, R. Williams > WR: Ochocinco, R. Williams, S. Moss, T. Ginn > TE: Gates > DEF: Pittsburgh > K: Elam Is that a 12-team league? If so, holy shit. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/239 "2009-09-08T17:45:00Z")
10-team league. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/240 "2009-09-08T18:05:38Z")
Still, not bad. You could use some more wide receiver depth and your kicker sucks 😉 I would trade Derrick Ward for Beanie Wells if you can. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=13)