# Fantasy football general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955 "2009-07-23T02:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/501 "2009-10-09T22:02:58Z")
Correct on the interceptions; players do not get credit for team scoring. Much the same way that if you played Troy Brown back in his ironman days, you wouldn’t get points for his sacks (if he got any) unless the league used IDP. I wonder if you could set up a league with 0 IDP players to enable those points for individuals while at the same time not including defenders in the player pool. As for the thread size, I kinda like the one-stop shopping. I’ve only been getting on the dope a couple times a week, so I miss a lot of weekly threads. I use the “User CP” link at the top of the page to keep current with my subscribed threads, but sometimes I’ll have to bail halfway through checking them. Closing the browser updates them all as read and they no longer show up, so I don’t see them until the next post. That makes high-traffic threads much more reliably available to me. That’s just me, though. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/502 "2009-10-09T22:58:26Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Yes, offensive players get IDP points in leagues that have IDP. My favorite use of this was Jay Feely, who gets an unusually large number of tackles for a kicker. Or at least he did back in 05 when we did the precursor to the All-Pro league using IDP.I’m pretty sure that’s not true, but I suppose it makes sense if it is. More specifically, the offensive player who scoops it up get credited with an “Offensive Fumble Return TD”, in case anyone was ever wondering what that stat meant. It doesn’t matter which team fumbles it; if your guy scoops up a fumble and scores, he gets those points. Happened in 2003 during [that epic Bucs-Colts MNF](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=231006027) game where the Colts came back from 21 points down with four minutes to go - Keenan McCardell scooped up a fumble on an Indianapolis interception return and took it to the house. Initially [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) leagues scored it as a TD for McCardell, but they ruled later that McCardell was acting as a defensive player since Indy had taken over possession, so it was scored for fantasy as a defensive TD. Yahoo! scored it that way too. See [here](Fantasy players were up in arms regarding Buccaneers receiver Keenan McCardell’s 57-yard touchdown return after he picked up a fumble by Colts safety Mike Doss, who had intercepted a pass. The official NFL ruling: The touchdown goes to Tampa Bay’s defense because McCardell was on defense at the time of the fumble. The rich get richer.) and [here](http://www.radiogodsforum.com/forum/topic/4484-fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu/page __pid__ 56025 __mode__ threaded). Caused fights in a bunch of custom leagues- see [here](http://www.wctc.net/~juarez/Scoring.html) and [here](http://www.myfantasyleague.com/week_5_mccardell2.html). More articles here: [Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS327US327&q=keenan+mccardell+fumble+return+for+touchdown+fantasy&aq=f&oq=&aqi=) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/503 "2009-10-09T23:03:33Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > That might be fun actually as a hypothetical. Is there a way to reserve mock drafts on any popular sites? (rather than the typical fill up and go style) Actually I was thinking we could just do it in a thread. Whoever shows up makes the next pick and we’ll recap the “teams so far” at the end of each round. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/504 "2009-10-09T23:38:46Z")
Great explanation, RNATB. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/505 "2009-10-10T01:18:26Z")
You certainly aren’t the first to be confused by it, and it makes just as much sense to count the score as an offensive touchdown. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/506 "2009-10-10T02:12:01Z")
OK, so do I start Brady or Eli Manning this week? Yahoo says Brady has more projected point, but that’s against the Broncos. Manning is facing the Raiders, and the matchup seems way softer. I was worried about Manning’s heel injury, but the reports are saying he’s fine and will start. Do I play it safe and start Brady, or go with my gut and stat Manning? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/507 "2009-10-10T02:32:01Z")
The reports are saying he’ll start, but I’m hearing a lot about how it will hurt when he sets his feet to throw. Plantar fasciitis hurts like hell. I’d give Eli a week off. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/508 "2009-10-10T03:16:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The reports are saying he’ll start, but I’m hearing a lot about how it will hurt when he sets his feet to throw. Plantar fasciitis hurts like hell. I’d give Eli a week off. And, Oakland is pretty good against the pass so the Giants will probably run a lot, with or without Manning. The Giants will also probably win by a lot, reducing the numbers of throws Manning would make in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Play someone like Brady regardless of the matchup. The few times you’re right and your bench QB ends up scoring more will be far outnumbered by times Brady plays like himself. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/509 "2009-10-10T04:10:37Z")
I created a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11648315) for week 5 sit/start questions. You can still post here if you want, or we can have a thread specializing in those questions each week. Vote with your feet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/510 "2009-10-10T04:36:50Z")
Reported spam post. ^ ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/511 "2009-10-10T11:57:59Z")
I was offered Matt Hasselbeck, Santonio Holmes and Wes Welker for Joe Flacco and Steve Smith (NYG.) Basically, it comes down to do I want Welker and would he be a weekly start for me. Right now Smith is getting more points, but that may not last. I hate to give up Flacco (Warner is my other QB.) Hasselbeck wasn’t even drafted in my league and I have no interest in him. Holmes probably wouldn’t get off my bench (Megatron, Boldin and Welker would be ahead of him, with Kevin Walter in the mix.) I declined the trade but the offer’s still out there. Is Welker worth it? ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/512 "2009-10-10T15:48:48Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > And, Oakland is pretty good against the pass so the Giants will probably run a lot, with or without Manning. The Giants will also probably win by a lot, reducing the numbers of throws Manning would make in the 3rd and 4th quarters. > > Play someone like Brady regardless of the matchup. The few times you’re right and your bench QB ends up scoring more will be far outnumbered by times Brady plays like himself. Sadly, Manning has outdone Brady every week. Not by a lot, but he has. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/513 "2009-10-10T18:17:14Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Sadly, Manning has outdone Brady every week. Not by a lot, but he has. Not every league is built the same, of course. But, I wonder. How the hell did Eli Manning outscore Tom Brady in week 1 in your league? Manning: 256 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 fumble lost Brady: 378 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 0 butter fingers ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/514 "2009-10-10T18:59:41Z")
Well, it’s not as useful as a list of average draft position, but Yahoo did come out with a new [big board](http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nfl/news?slug=bf-bigboard-football) today. [brag] In the all-pro league (12 man), I have the 1st, 7th, 11th, 14th, 23rd, and 39th most valuable players, so you’d think I’d be doing well. Nope, 1-3 record and 10th place. I’ve been trying to deal Marion Barber (11) for weeks because you can only start 2 RBs in the league and I have 6, including MJD/Pierre Thomas and no one will touch him. In the [auction league draft](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11514702&postcount=60), I spent by far the least on my RBs in the draft, I spent only $51 on my top 2 backs, who are ranked 6th and 7th. At least in this league I’m doing well for it. [/brag] ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/515 "2009-10-11T00:03:55Z")
That big board doesn’t make any sense at all to me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/516 "2009-10-11T00:26:02Z")
I have some disagreements with it, but it seems reasonable to me. What about it seems perplexing? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/517 "2009-10-11T05:58:26Z")
A bit late for this week, but anyway: I have to start 2 of these: S. Jackson STL (vs MIN) J. Jones SEA (vs JAX) T. Hightower ARZ (vs HOU) R. Williams MIA (vs NYJ) No PPR in this league. Opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/518 "2009-10-11T06:02:10Z")
I decided to bench Donald Brown (RB-IND vs. TEN) in my money league in favor of Jerome Harrison (RB-CLE vs. BUF) whom I claimed from Free Agency while dropping Willie Parker (RB-PIT vs. DET - Out) in my money league. If this blows up in my face I’m coming for you **SenorBeef**. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/519 "2009-10-11T10:46:58Z")
This is a no win proposition for me. If he does well… well, then he just does well. If he does badly, it’s time to lynch SenorBeef. He put up like 17 points for Varlos last week and I didn’t even receive a cookie basket. Btw, I’m only willing to vouch that Harrison’s running skills are awesome. If they decide to give Jamal Lewis 20 carries so he can run into his guard’s back for 2.2 ypc that’s out of my control. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/520 "2009-10-11T11:07:22Z")
I picked up DA and Massaquoi in a couple leagues as a bye week fill in too, my reliance on Browns is at an alarming level. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=27)