# Fantasy football general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955 "2009-07-23T02:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/681 "2009-11-11T02:27:47Z")
I’ve been offered Marques Colston for Shiancoe (my backup TE behind Dallas Clark), Sproles (never gets off my bench) and Steve Breaston (my #4 WR behind S. Smith (NYG), Boldin and S. Holmes.) This will give me a core of Warner, Gore, Colston, Boldin, and D. Clark for the stretch run. My other RBs are Caddy, Lynch, Jamal Charles and LT. Good idea? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/682 "2009-11-11T02:29:03Z")
Uh, yes. Take that deal so hard that it actually goes back in time and retraoctively gives you Colston earlier in the season. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/683 "2009-11-11T02:42:37Z")
Yeah, I took it. I actually made the initial offer but had included Lynch instead of Sproles. He wanted Sproles. I actually am still holding out hope that Lynch can have a decent 2nd half. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/684 "2009-11-11T04:03:16Z")
That’s a lot of production to give up for one player, even a top 3 option. I wouldn’t have made the deal, but it’s not horrible. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/685 "2009-11-11T04:05:37Z")
He’s giving up players he’s unlikely to start for a top 5 player at his position who will be an every day starter. And they’re in positions where injuries won’t be that big a deal. He doesn’t lose receiver depth because he’s giving up Breaston but getting Colston. He loses a mid-tier TE who he’d never start ahead of Clark, and if Clark got injured Shiancoe could probably be replaced for free by someone like Zach Miller or Dustin Keller. And Sproles isn’t worth much unless your league counts return yards. Easy trade that’s stacked heavily in his favor. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/686 "2009-11-11T04:06:56Z")
Fantastic trade. Breaston is easily replaced this year, and if Sproles is never off your bench, who cares? Shiancoe and a backup RB for a gigantic upgrade at any position is exactly what good trades are made of. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/687 "2009-11-11T04:22:39Z")
Sproles isn’t worth much unless he gets the starting gig in San Diego, which could happen at pretty much any moment. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/688 "2009-11-11T04:30:15Z")
It could. But Colston will remain a top 5 WR throughout the entire season while Sproles ceiling isn’t ever going to be that high. The deal is a no-brainer considering his team. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/689 "2009-11-11T04:36:06Z")
Even when Sproles started, he wasn’t that good. He ripped off a few big screens and that was pretty much all he did in the starting role. His YPC as a runner is pretty terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/690 "2009-11-11T04:44:42Z")
Yeah, but I’d rather have a true #2 running back than Colston. He’s platooning a bunch of #3s. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/691 "2009-11-11T04:46:14Z")
Wait - you mean you’d rather have Sproles straight up than Colston? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/692 "2009-11-11T05:09:56Z")
No, but for what he’s giving away he ought to be able to get a Marion Barber, who I _would_ rather have. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/693 "2009-11-11T05:18:10Z")
I wish you were in the all pro league. I can’t move Marion Barber to save my life 😛 I have Marion Barber, LeSean McCoy, Ryan Moats, and Knowshon Moreno up for trade and no one cares. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/694 "2009-11-11T05:20:59Z")
Well, I wouldn’t want Moreno or Moats. McCoy, if he was cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/695 "2009-11-11T11:20:34Z")
My first priority was a RB, but there’s not a lot of true depth out there because of so many 1st round flops (LT, Forte, even Jacobs.) I’m clinging to a 1 game lead in my division after going 1 - 3 the last 4 weeks. Steve Smith has been declining fast, Boldin has been hurt and hasn’t produced much yet, and I just got Holmes a few weeks ago, so I figured a true WR1 (PPR league, btw) would be my next best option. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/696 "2009-11-11T15:14:37Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yeah, but I’d rather have a true #2 running back than Colston. He’s platooning a bunch of #3s. Frankly, these days I’d rather platoon a bunch of #3s. There really aren’t any #2 RBs anymore that you can count on. I think the definition of an RB2 these days is “could be a #1 if only his coach would stop giving so many carries to his backup”. That leads to unpredictability, which I hate. How many times have you lamented about the Addai/Brown situation? Same thing. There are so many 1-2 RB situations in the NFL right now that decrease their fantasy value, targeting a first-look WR for flex is becoming a more and more sound strategy. (Especially in a PPR league like Southern Yankee’s.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/697 "2009-11-11T18:23:04Z")
I’ve only got Addai or Brown in my least important league, so I haven’t lamented it at all, though I see your point. I also did not notice where **SY** said it was a PPR league. That certainly makes a difference. > [@](#): > > My first priority was a RB, but there’s not a lot of true depth out there because of so many 1st round flops (LT, Forte, even Jacobs.) I’m clinging to a 1 game lead in my division after going 1 - 3 the last 4 weeks. Steve Smith has been declining fast, Boldin has been hurt and hasn’t produced much yet, and I just got Holmes a few weeks ago, so I figured a true WR1 (PPR league, btw) would be my next best option. I have been trading for Jacobs on the cheap everywhere I possibly can, for the record. I just gave up Cedric Benson for him and The Other Steve Smith in my longtime league. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/698 "2009-11-13T01:31:03Z")
I benched Crabtree in favor of Maroney in my Flex spot in HHM this week. The decision is stressing me out. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/699 "2009-11-13T01:46:57Z")
Marginal running back \> marginal wideout. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/700 "2009-11-13T02:26:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Marginal running back \> marginal wideout. Yeah, but Maroney disappears on occasion and he’s playing the Colts. Crabtree seems to be Smiths favorite target against a Bears D that’s making a habit of getting toasted. Though Tillman and Bowman are having solid games. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=36)