# Fantasy football general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955 "2009-07-23T02:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/781 "2009-11-23T17:26:11Z")
I think Caldwell will play for 16-0 if he has the chance. However, Indy might lock up the #1 seed _three_ weeks before the end of the regular season. That means half-games for Manning, Wayne, Clark and Addai. Glad I haven’t got any Colts is all I can say. ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/782 "2009-11-23T17:58:02Z")
I’m leaning heavily on Peyton Manning in one of my leagues, and I hope to god they either stay undefeated or start losing right now. But if they’re like 13-1 going into their last two games, then cue the Jim Sorgi show and lights out for my fantasy squad. I think this only reinforces the fantasy value of Patriots players, who not only play when home field is assured, but also well into blowouts. That’s not a jab at the Pats; I don’t have any problem with running up the score against pro teams, but that’s a discussion for another day. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/783 "2009-11-23T18:14:43Z")
There aren’t two losses left on the Colts’ schedule, assuming Manning is healthy. Be afraid. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/784 "2009-11-23T19:53:21Z")
It would be interesting if the 2nd and 3rd undefeated regular seasons ever came almost back to back. In the age of parity… The NFL is now apparently just an excuse for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady to one up each other with new accomplishments. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/785 "2009-11-23T19:56:12Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The NFL is now apparently just an excuse for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady to one up each other with new accomplishments. I just wish Peyton would do it with Austin Collie a little bit more often these days… ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/786 "2009-11-23T19:56:56Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It would be interesting if the 2nd and 3rd undefeated regular seasons ever came almost back to back. In the age of parity… > > The NFL is now apparently just an excuse for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady to one up each other with new accomplishments. 2nd and 3rd AND 4th, if the Saints can get past the Patriots next week! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/787 "2009-11-23T20:04:26Z")
That would be pretty nuts. Imagine an undefeated vs undefeated superbowl. The hype would actually be justified. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/788 "2009-11-23T20:06:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I think Caldwell will play for 16-0 if he has the chance. However, Indy might lock up the #1 seed _three_ weeks before the end of the regular season. That means half-games for Manning, Wayne, Clark and Addai. > > Glad I haven’t got any Colts is all I can say. Good thing I never traded my backup QB. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/789 "2009-11-23T20:35:02Z")
So I had a 9 game winning streak in the SDMB auction league come to an end - and not just barely. My opponent put up 156 points to my 80, for the most scored in the league this year. The longest streak I’ve seen is 14 games by Tazmanian Devil in the SDMB all-pro league in IIRC 2006. Was that the year that Tomlinson outscored everyone else in the NFL combined? He had a good roster at every position and just steamrolled the rest of the league… 13-0 in the regular season, had a bye week, won the semi-finals and made it into the championship game. Where he then lost, 2007 Patriots style. That had to hurt. What have your longest streaks been? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/790 "2009-11-23T23:32:54Z")
I went undefeated in the regular season in my long-time league last year (14-0) with Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Michael Turner, Clinton Portis, Steve Slaton, Reggie Wayne, Antonio Bryant, Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Tony Gonzalez, Robbie Gould and a bunch of waiver wire defenses. I broke the league record **three times** for single-game points scored (the best was 168; the league is QB 2RB 3WR TE K DST, with no points for return yardage - the defenses get credit for defensive or special teams TDs). Unfortunately, the second best team was in my division. He was the only guy within 400 points of me by the end of the regular season. I laid an egg in the first round of the playoffs and lost to him. I still have yet to win a fantasy championship, even though I’ve never finished outside the top five in absolute scoring in any 12-team league (I think I finished 7th in scoring in HHM last year, which is a 14-team league, but I can’t find the recap thread). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/791 "2009-11-24T00:37:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > (I think I finished 7th in scoring in HHM last year, which is a 14-team league, but I can’t find the recap thread). 10th. You can access any previous HHM season from the league page. There’s a drop down menu to the upper right of the standings. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/792 "2009-11-24T02:40:58Z")
Chris Brown???1111one ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/793 "2009-11-24T05:29:23Z")
Ooh, neat. Thanks, **Munch.** ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/794 "2009-11-24T06:53:25Z")
After this week, 11 teams in my 12 man league will be within a game of .500. I was in last place before this week started and it’s still possible for me to finish tied for second. Crazy. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/795 "2009-11-24T08:14:32Z")
So in two leagues, both the aforementioned big league, and also the SDMB dynasty league, I am behind and in both leagues I still have Steve Slaton to play. In the big league, I’m behind 116.75 to 99.75 - I’m behind exactly 16 points. In the dynasty league it’s a bit closer - I’m behind 119.02 to 104.18, behind 14.84 points. Slaton’s score? (both leagues have half ppr): 14.8 I just got knocked out of the playoff race in both leagues, losing by a margin of 2.2 points and .04 points respectively. .04 points. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/796 "2009-11-24T14:47:06Z")
You’d be two games out of the playoffs even if you’d won in the dynasty league, though, and with 6 teams at least one game up on you. ---
**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/797 "2009-11-24T17:23:14Z")
Going into week 12, which of these two WRs do you prefer? Sidney Rice vs Chicago, Mike Sims-Walker @ San Francisco, or Greg Jennings vs Detroit? I’m leaning towards Rice and Jennings. Jennings seems like he is finally coming around, and his matchup with Detroit looks juicy. And Rice just seems like an automatic start regardless of the matchup. Sims-Walker hasn’t done well in away games, but he seems to be getting better, and his matchup with SF looks nice, being that they just gave up 126 yards with 1 TD to Jennings in week 11. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/798 "2009-11-24T17:28:10Z")
Bench Jennings until he shows some consistency. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/799 "2009-11-25T03:46:04Z")
Jennings’ inconsistently has to do with their playbook consistently putting him on slow developing routes, so given the level of pass protection the Packers have had, he’s rarely been a viable target. Since their protection is improving, I would treat Jennings as a dramatically better prospect from here on out, especially against teams with a weak pass rush. I would put his value against Detroit high, although Rice and Sims-Walker are also good matchups so it’s a tough call. I would probably start Rice/Jennings. Btw, this is the first season I am suffering through teams that aren’t making the playoffs. I’ve made the playoffs 6 out of 6 times in previous years. I should be 3/4 this year, if not for the total screwing in the big league. Feels… useless. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/800 "2009-11-25T05:43:04Z")
I’d be a little cautious with Rice. The Bears pass defense has been pretty good and Tillman in particular has really stepped up his play lately, if history is any guide it’ll be Peterson and the running game that kills the Bears this week and Favre and Rice will probably have below average performances. The Vikings receiver I’d want is Harvin, super fast athletic slot guys really give these Safeties in the Tampa 2 fits, DeSean Jackson was the most recent example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955.md?page=41)