# Fantasy football general discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955 "2009-07-23T02:54:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/841 "2009-12-15T15:04:29Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> Well I guess I have a decision to make then, Schaub @ StL or Manning @ Jax. I’m a fairly big favorite, so I was planning to play Schaub to be safe, since the possibility is there for Manning to get pulled.

I might start Schaub regardless.

> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Ok, after a first round playoff bye, I have to make a decision on my flex player this week. It’s the playoffs, dammit! These are my 3 best options:
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> **LDT v. Cincy** (He’s been scoring consistently, but no yardage)  
> \*\*  
> Steve Smith (NYG) v. Washington\*\* (Still getting a lot of targets; and it’s MNF)
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> **Santonio Holmes v. GB** (Has been very productive from my bench)

Smith is getting a lot of targets, but it seems like he hasn’t scored a touchdown in months. Anyway, the Redskins are #1 against the pass.

Green Bay are also really good against the pass.

LT will give you ~50 rushing yards, and is a much better bet to score.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/842 "2009-12-16T15:40:08Z")

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I’ve never run across this situation before: Is it possible I could get points for a running back kicking a field goal or PAT? Tim Hightower is the Cardinals emergency kicker since their punter Ben Graham has no placekicking experience.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/843 "2009-12-16T15:42:06Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I’ve never run across this situation before: Is it possible I could get points for a running back kicking a field goal or PAT? Tim Hightower is the Cardinals emergency kicker since their punter Ben Graham has no placekicking experience.

Yup. Flutie owners got points for his dropkick a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/844 "2009-12-16T15:52:08Z")

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I would be extremely surprised if Flutie was on any fantasy rosters when he made the kick, let alone starting for owners. He was the third quarterback and [didn’t play a down](http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=260101017) (except that one).

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/845 "2009-12-16T16:24:42Z")

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Regardless, he was classified as a QB, and received points for the kick - which perfectly answers dalej’s question.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/846 "2009-12-17T16:36:44Z")

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What about starting Hightower over SJax? Last week Jackson got nothing because the defense wasn’t worried about the QB and just stacked against the run. Meanwhile the Cards are vs. the Lions. Though it seems Hightower is losing touches lately.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/847 "2009-12-17T17:10:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Ganther scored twice yesterday. McFadden is worthless. Jones is too boom-or-bust, and hasn’t had the same sort of impact since he got hurt earlier this season.

Which Jones? If you even think “Kevin”, I will print this post out, find you, wherever you are, and make you eat it.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/848 "2009-12-17T17:15:18Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> What about starting Hightower over SJax? Last week Jackson got nothing because the defense wasn’t worried about the QB and just stacked against the run. Meanwhile the Cards are vs. the Lions. Though it seems Hightower is losing touches lately.

I would start Jackson. Before last week, he was productive almost every week. Hightower fumbled against the 49ers (who didn’t?) so who knows what you’ll get?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/849 "2009-12-17T21:00:46Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Which Jones? If you even think “Kevin”, I will print this post out, find you, wherever you are, and make you eat it.

Felix.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/850 "2009-12-17T21:14:35Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Felix.

Okay then. That’s better.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/851 "2009-12-17T21:26:25Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Yup. Flutie owners got points for his dropkick a few years ago.

I don’t think this is true. I have no idea how to confirm it though. Nowadays Yahoo has this “additional points” thing where kickers and wide receivers get extra points for passing yards and fumble recoveries but back in the day they didn’t. I remember several circumstances where kickers would get passing or rushing yards and scores and they wouldn’t get points for it in past years. Basically the Yahoo database wasn’t set up to record it.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/852 "2009-12-17T21:31:43Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Regardless, he was classified as a QB, and received points for the kick - which perfectly answers dalej’s question.

Is Ochocinco still the back up kicker in Cincy?

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/853 "2009-12-18T02:33:14Z")

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Quick question for this week: Which two of these three RBs should I start?

Marion Barber vs. NO  
Kevin Faulk vs. BUF  
Willis McGahee vs. CHI

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**Author:** ![satoridt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@satoridt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satoridt)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/854 "2009-12-18T02:42:07Z")

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Fuck Fantasy football. Just a bunch of fucking lucky rolls of the dice. and fuck yahoo and their goddamn stat correction on aaron rodgers. why the fuck do i do this shit? i am in 4 leagues. I was comfortably in the playoffs in 3 of them a week ago. You know every player who underperformed this week? they were on my team so i scored shit and let everybody pass me for the tie breaker. i was still barely in the playoffs in one league. then the fucking stat correction on aaron rodgers gave a terrible owner the victory and im out. fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/855 "2009-12-18T03:01:51Z")

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> [@wmulax93](#):
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> Quick question for this week: Which two of these three RBs should I start?
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> Marion Barber vs. NO  
> Kevin Faulk vs. BUF  
> Willis McGahee vs. CHI

Not great options at all. Faulk is easily the worst of the group, but McGahee is a vulture and could get totally shut out. Plan accordingly and if there’s any chance to start a WR in the flex over McGahee I’d do it.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/856 "2009-12-18T03:24:44Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Not great options at all. Faulk is easily the worst of the group, but McGahee is a vulture and could get totally shut out. Plan accordingly and if there’s any chance to start a WR in the flex over McGahee I’d do it.

I know, I’ve been riding the McGahee roller-coaster all season as my flex player due to my lack of WRs.

I’m not sure how much this is going to matter after tonight. I’m starting Peyton Manning, Dallas Clark, Mike Sims-Walker, and Maurice Jones-Drew. I have 76.5 points already, and I’m going against a team I should have been able to beat with less production out of Sims-Walker.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/857 "2009-12-18T03:53:14Z")

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A Reggie Wayne score! It’s been weeks!

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/858 "2009-12-18T03:56:21Z")

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I heart Peyton Manning. I have 92.3 points. On Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/859 "2009-12-18T04:15:07Z")

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And to think I was considering not using a 5th-round keeper pick on Dallas Clark this offseason (in HHM).

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-general-discussion/503955/860 "2009-12-19T06:08:33Z")

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Urk. I need high variance this week.

Donovan McNabb (v. 49ers)  
Frank Gore (v. Iggles)  
Brandon Jacobs (v. Redskins)  
Josh Cribbs (v. Chiefs)  
Brandon Marshall (v. Raiders)  
Robert Meachem (v. Cowboys)  
Brent Celek (v. 49ers)  
Ravens D/ST (v. Bears)  
David Akers (v. 49ers)

Starting over:  
Collie - locked  
Greg Olsen v. Ravens  
Santana Moss v. Giants  
Vince Young v. Miami  
Packers v. Steelers  
Arian Foster v. Rams  
Tashard Choice v. Saints

Think I should move stuff around?

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