# Fantasy football preseason general discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 3, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112 "2012-07-03T16:21:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/1 "2012-07-03T16:21:41Z")
Fantasy football season is just around the corner, so let’s use this as a general discussion thread. Recruiting is fine, discussion of specific leagues before their specific threads open is fine, debating the value of players - whatever you want, open game. The links I give in this post will be for last year’s thread for the various leagues. I’ll post the URLs to this year’s thread when they’re created. Results from last year: [All-pro league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614876) 1. Omni’s Omnipotents (Omniscient) 2. Isotopes (Petey) 3. Kelly’s Heroes (Munch) 4. Court Jesters (d\_odds) 5. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef) 6. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) 7. Frosted\_Lightning (Frosted Glass) 8. Chitwood (Jimmy Chitwood) 9. No Use For A Name (Retrovertigo) 10. The Great Old Ones (Ol’Gaffer) 11. The Gridbirds (brianjedi) 12. Tazmanian Devils (Tazmanian Devils) [Auction league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614879) 1. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef) 2. Duke’s Devils (MTRG) 3. Overly Sentimental (Chuck - off board) 4. Crowley’s Bentley (Hamlet) 5. HungryHungryHaruspex (Jules Andre) 6. Court Jesters (d\_odds) 7. New New York Benders (It’s Not Rocket Surgery!) 8. Chicago Cutlery (Omniscient) 9. Phoenix Redbirds (dalej42) 10. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) 11. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) 12. Team Dragon Ash (DragonAsh) [Big League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614881) 1. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef) 2. Hamlets Out Of Ideas (Hamlet) 3. Court Jesters (d\_odds) 4. Scissor Me Timbers (Munch) 5. Frosted\_Lightning (Frosted\_Glass) 6. Hey There Fancypants (MrSquishy) 7. Up By Three (Taber) 8. Curry Porkrinds (tds1273) 9. No Use For A Name II (Retrovertigo) 10. The Brute Squad (Only Mostly Dead) 11. Living Through Them (Gray Ghost) 12. Not Sure (brickbacon) 13. The Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey) 14. Garcon’s Cedillia (off-board friend of MrSquishy) 15. Return of Ryan Leaf (mhendo) 16. Evil Monkey (MTRG) 17. CMFD (Chuck, off board) 18. Unrelated Siblings (Uncle Brother Walker) 19. Phoenix Redbirds (dalej42) 20. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) [Dynasty League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=615608) 1. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef) 2. We Do HGH (Stringer) 3. The Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey) 4. RetroVertigo (RetroVertigo) 5. Isotopes (Petey) 6. Fightin’ Quakers (furt) 7. 9 Inch Neils (Really Not All That Bright) 8. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) 9. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) 10. CuteWiddleBunny (Hamlet) 11. Ides of Martz (Omniscient) 12. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42) [Super League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=620552) 1. Sold! For $156 (RetroVertigo) 2. HungryHungryHaruspex (Jules Andre) 3. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef) 4. Omni’s Omnipotents (Omniscient) 5. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) 6 (relegated out). Nine Inch Neils (RNATB) [He Hate Me Keeper League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=618920) (Assuming their draft order is the reverse of their finishing order. I don’t know how the team names/SDMB names match up for sure, someone please feel free to fill this out) 1. RNATB 2. Crabby Hermits 3. 4th and 19 4. Hamlet 5. NY Fanboys 6. ViQueens 7. DrewBreesBirthmark 8. Off Constantly 9. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 10. Omni’s Omnipotents 11. Fightin Quakers 12. HungryHungryHarus 13. Spiritus Mundane 14. Baltimore Weirdos [Oak’s fantasy league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616059) (Again, not sure of the SDMB names on this one, someone please fill it in: 1. Cliff’s Clavins 2. The Lorem Ipsums 3. London Calling 4. Oilers (IKN) 5. Darnasus Druids 6. Phoenix Redbirds 7. Detroit Lurkers 8. Chicago 46ers 9. Unrelated Siblings 10. Flying Megashark So far for the leagues I run I’ve scheduled them around the same relative dates (ie auction league is the Tuesday after week 3 in preseason) but this is just a starting point, to get a time reservation down. If someone can’t make it, and everyone can handle a time change, we can work out a schedule change. So these are preliminary: Auction League Tuesday Aug 28 9:45 Eastern All Pro League Thursday Aug 30 9:45 Eastern Big League Tuesday Sep 4 9:15 Eastern Dynasty League Sunday Sep 2 9:30 Eastern And IIRC, the keeper league drafts on Labor day. The super league is as yet unscheduled, I’ll start that thread soon to get the ball rolling on discussing voting for replacements/invitations. None of my leagues are recruiting yet - I want to give people a chance to claim their spots - but as we get nearer the season, I will fill empty slots. Make sure you rejoin your leagues. Go to the yahoo fantasy football page and there will be an option. The Super League will be recruiting 1 player - the way the league works is that we try to have 6 of the board’s best, most active players, and each year the loser of the relegation bowl gets kicked out of the league. The rest of the league then votes for a replacement based on who they think will be the best/most active competition, and they’re invited to join us. If you want to get in on the super league, make your case. As a request/suggestion, I’d like everyone to keep their same team name from last year. If people change fantasy team names every year, you often forget who’s who and it hampers the sense of community you get with these multiyear leagues. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/2 "2012-07-03T16:28:31Z")
> [@](#): > > He Hate Me Keeper League > > (Assuming their draft order is the reverse of their finishing order. I don’t know how the team names/SDMB names match up for sure, someone please feel free to fill this out) Nope, it’s a semi-complicated system of rewarding those in the consolation bracket, as well as punishing the last place teams. Final order was: 9 Inch Neils Crabby Hermits Fourth & Nineteen Moridwon Baltimore Weirdos Spiritus Mundane Hungry Hungry Harus Fightin’ Quakers New York Fanboys ViQueens DrewBrees’sBirthmark Off Constantly Varlos’ Zzzzzzzzzz Omni’s Omnipotents ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/3 "2012-07-03T16:32:55Z")
Can you list the SDMB names of those players? And then I can ask a mod if they’ll go in and edit my original post to accurately reflect the results. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/4 "2012-07-03T16:43:02Z")
9 Inch Neils - Me Crabby Hermits - the Mad Hermit Fourth & Nineteen - Wilson Moridwon - Hamlet Baltimore Weirdos - Weirddave (no longer a board member) Spiritus Mundane - Spiritus Mundi Hungry Hungry Harus -NurseCarmen, I think Fightin’ Quakers - furt New York Fanboys - Ellis Dee ViQueens - DragonAsh DrewBrees’sBirthmark - Bababooey Off Constantly - Munch Varlos’ Zzzzzzzzzz - VarlosZ Omni’s Omnipotents - Omniscient ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/5 "2012-07-03T16:44:55Z")
I assume Hungry Hungry is Jules Andre, since that’s what he’s gone by in other leagues. Or maybe he left the league, NurseCarmen took over, and kept the name? Or Jules took over for NurseCarmen and you’re guessing based on his keepers. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/6 "2012-07-03T17:00:10Z")
Oh, yeah, that’s Jules. I got confused because he used to be Quentin’s Jammers. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/7 "2012-07-03T18:52:21Z")
There should be markedly less Afghanistan this year than last for me, so I’m in for an opening in the big league or the auction league if one opens up. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/8 "2012-07-08T18:40:47Z")
In a semi-keeper PPR league I have the ability to keep among others DeMarco Murray (RB-Dal), Eli Manning (QB-NYG), and Victor Cruz (WR-NYG) . I have to keep one player, and If I choose to keep a 2nd I lose a 5th round pick in the upcoming draft. I leaning towards keeping Cruz and Murray (as QB’s last a bit longer in this league), and if only one just Cruz. What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/9 "2012-07-08T20:38:29Z")
I think Cruz and Murray are no-brainers. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/10 "2012-07-08T23:50:21Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I think Cruz and Murray are no-brainers. Yeah I would tend to agree, but was seeing if I could get an argument to keep Manning. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/11 "2012-07-09T17:30:36Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > There should be markedly less Afghanistan this year than last for me, so I’m in for an opening in the big league or the auction league if one opens up. I think I’m going to bow out of the Big League this year, so if you want it, the spot is yours. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/12 "2012-07-09T17:49:58Z")
Having been ousted from the Super League, I am also looking for a new (third) home. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/13 "2012-07-09T18:57:13Z")
I’m looking for another league as well. As I explained to the He Hate Me league, I got my liver/kidney transplant and am feeling much better, ready to get back in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/14 "2012-07-10T19:43:41Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I think I’m going to bow out of the Big League this year, so if you want it, the spot is yours. Woo hoo! I mean, err, I’m sorry you’re unable to take part, and I’m sure that no one outside of SB will mind having another person in the BL who overdrafts (and by that I mean drafts) Browns skill position players again. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/15 "2012-07-11T00:24:12Z")
In a non keeper, standard scoring league, would you consider drafting Luck or RGIII? Right now, I’m saying no unless it is a 14 team league or larger. In a ten team league, I’m very unlikely to draft a backup QB at all. In a 12 team league, I do draft a back up, but I’m probably going to aim for a Matt Ryan, Ryan Fitzpatrick type if I’ve got a quality starter. With a 14 team or larger league, I think I’d consider taking a chance on or the other if there isn’t much left at RB or WR in the late rounds. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/16 "2012-07-11T00:37:40Z")
Well, let me put it this way: the ceiling for RGIII in his first year is what Rex Grossman did last year. Is that what you want from your backup? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/17 "2012-07-11T17:04:37Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I mean, err, I’m sorry you’re unable to take part, and I’m sure that no one outside of SB will mind having another person in the BL who overdrafts (and by that I mean drafts) Browns skill position players again. True, I am horrible at fantasy football. Note my results in the OP! I’ve gotten better about not doing that anyway - usually just very late round fliers. Although at least this year there will be a player worth drafting. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/18 "2012-07-13T02:14:20Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > True, I am horrible at fantasy football. Note my results in the OP! > > I’ve gotten better about not doing that anyway - usually just very late round fliers. Although at least this year there will be a player worth drafting. You don’t homer pick any more than everybody else. In fact you do it less then a few people in some of the leagues. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/19 "2012-07-13T02:31:09Z")
I used to be worse about homer picks, so he’s probably remembering that more than my recent behavior. It’s a habit I’ve mostly gotten over, although my late round fliers do tend to be very browns heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112/20 "2012-07-13T03:35:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, let me put it this way: the ceiling for RGIII in his first year is what Rex Grossman did last year. Is that what you want from your backup? Except he will also have rushing yards, probably worth a couple extra points per game. That said I like upside out of my backup QB, so I would rather own RG3 than say, Alex Smith or Matt Cassel. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fantasy-football-preseason-general-discussion/627112.md?page=2)