# Fanwanks or fan theories you love (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 4, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148 "2013-06-04T20:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/41 "2013-06-05T12:53:10Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > I like the idea that “James Bond” is a legacy identity, passed from one agent to another, similar to the Dread Pirate Roberts. This one simply doesn’t hold water. Why would Roger Moore visit Tracy’s grave in _For Your Eyes Only_? And if “James Bond” is a code name, why would Tracy’s headstone say “Bond”? Here’s one I saw on Reddit which is pretty good: Akeem and Semmi in _Coming To America_ [are half-brothers.](http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1c86pk/akeem_and_semmi_brothers/) ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/42 "2013-06-05T13:06:08Z")
Been around a while, but I love [A New Sith](http://northisup.com/blog/a-new-sith-or-revenge-of-the-hope-mirror/), the fan theory that connects Revenge of the Sith to A New Hope. Disney should offer this guy a job ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/43 "2013-06-05T13:31:28Z")
Some really good ones here! I also like: > [@](#): > > 1. Ferris Bueller doesn’t exist and the entire movie takes place in Cameron’s mind. > > 2. Neville was really the Chosen One. > > 3. I am not sure this one counts because I am pretty sure the movies say this is the case but the Internet considers this a fan theory: Zion is a part of the Matrix. Everything we saw was in the Matrix; no one ever leaves. Zion and the “free humans” are a safety valve the Machines use to keep the Matrix working. > [@](#): > > Event Horizon is set in the past of the Warhammer 40,000 universe. Event Horizon was just the first human ship to travel through the Warp. > [@](#): > > I like the idea that “James Bond” is a legacy identity, passed from one agent to another, similar to the Dread Pirate Roberts. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/44 "2013-06-05T13:36:58Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > In A Song of Ice and Fire, the characters are so young. For me, too young to be physically and emotionally consistent with their given ages. So their ages are that planet’s years, not Earth years. Add 3-5 years to everyone’s ages for an Earth conversion and it’s considerably more believable and less creepy. This has something to do with their fucked up seasons. I’ve had to do that one as well; Jon Snow and Daenarys would barely have pubic hair by their ages in the books. Therefore I add about 150 days to the year so that 13 name days = 17 birthdays, because otherwise… ewww. Unfortunately it makes Maester Aemon almost 150 in Earth years, but, it beats the alternative. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/45 "2013-06-05T13:40:57Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > No, that’s essentially TMNT canon. Here’s [the Cracked article](http://www.cracked.com/article_19323_6-movie-tv-universes-that-overlap-in-mind-blowing-ways_p2.html) you’re probably thinking of. Oh, yay! Thanks for that!! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/46 "2013-06-05T13:41:41Z")
> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#): > > This one simply doesn’t hold water. Why would Roger Moore visit Tracy’s grave in _For Your Eyes Only_? And if “James Bond” is a code name, why would Tracy’s headstone say “Bond”? 1. It was all a set-up to trap and eliminate Blofeld. 2. He’s a _spy_. They aren’t going to blow his cover by putting his real last name on her grave. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/47 "2013-06-05T13:44:12Z")
The Neville = Chosen One doesn’t hold water, because the prophecy says that Voldemort would mark the child who would become his nemesis. Harry was marked by Voldemort, Neville wasn’t. One of my pet theories, WAY back in the early days of Mark Waid’s run (no pun intended) on the Flash, just after Zero Hour, was that Max Mercury was really Benjamin Franklin. Turned out that Waid was going in a different direction, of course, but it seemed pretty clever at the time. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/48 "2013-06-05T13:52:00Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > In A Song of Ice and Fire, the characters are so young. For me, too young to be physically and emotionally consistent with their given ages. So their ages are that planet’s years, not Earth years. Add 3-5 years to everyone’s ages for an Earth conversion and it’s considerably more believable and less creepy. This has something to do with their fucked up seasons. That doesn’t even make sense; in medieval Earth times, people were more mature and responsible at younger ages. I recently read a book about medieval England, and this is a point that the author made very clearly- they’d execute 7 year olds for crimes back then, and women got married at 12 or so, and would have 4 kids by the time they were 20. Men in their early 20s were generals, and were experienced warriors already. In Roman times, boys were eligible to be soldiers in the Legions at 14. In light of that, it’s not at all unusual to have the ASoIAF characters be as young as they are. Oh, and the Obi Wan / Anakin thing about killing and the dark side- I’d always just assumed that was the case; the only reason for Obi Wan to have killed him would have been mercy, because anything else would have been hate or vengeance or some other dark side emotion. That’s hardly fan-wanking, but just logical thought. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/49 "2013-06-05T14:37:36Z")
When Dave was in the alien zoo/alien laboratory ‘cage’ at the end of **2001: A Space Odyssey** , the reason he kept seeing older versions of himself before becoming them is because the aliens were folding time. Before he was able to make the transition into Star Child, the aliens knew he first had to die, and either they didn’t want to wait that long, or perhaps thought it would be inhumane to force Dave to live out decades alone in a room, so they joined points of his future timeline to his past. When Dave saw himself, he was actually seeing his future timeline moving towards his present timeline. When they touched, his past self vanished. The Daleks engineered the assassination of the Seventh Doctor. They knew, in one way or another, that the Time War was coming, and they were hoping to face a different version of the Doctor in battle, one who was less of a strategist. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/50 "2013-06-05T15:33:02Z")
> [@tellyworth](#): > > John H. Watson’s middle name is Hamish. Because that’s my son’s name. > > It’s never given in the books, just the initial. At one point Watson’s wife calls him James. The fanwank is that she was using the anglicised version of Hamish, which must be his middle name. This is cannon in _Sherlock_, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/51 "2013-06-05T15:41:40Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > This is cannon in _Sherlock_, FWIW. I looooooooooooove the scene where we find out, too. “My middle name’s Hamish, if anyone cares.” Poor John. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/52 "2013-06-05T15:41:58Z")
The Elizabeth Shue characters from “The Karate Kid”, “Adventures in Babysitting” and “Leaving Las Vegas” are all the same girl. Crushed after being dumped by Ralph Macchio, she follows her scholarship to Northwestern University, but is left bankrupt from legal fees after defending herself from vindictive parents after one bad night of babysitting. Her scholarship money gone, her spirit broken, she finds herself in Las Vegas, where she meets Nicholas Cage’s character. * * * At the ending of Book 7 of Harry Potter, set in future at Platform 9 3/4 at King’s Cross Station, it’s Ron and Ginny who run a foot race to the car. “Harry, you promised me you’d tell her by Christmas…” Hermione said quietly as the two slowly walked towards the street. “Tonight at dinner,” replied a pensive Harry. A passerby might have thought he was checking the shine on his shoes. “Its all arranged. Siberies Storage will port my things at 9 tomorrow morning. The waiting period will be as expected, but I know that there won’t be any trouble.” “Harry, this isn’t going to be easy. You know I love you but I need to know: Are you sure?” Her brown eyes looked up at him with that question, both confident yet vulnerable, and if there was even a hint of extra moisture in them, it would have been very hard to tell indeed. Harry looked briefly down the track as the Hogwarts Express disappeared from view. “I’m sure, Hermione. I am more sure of this now than I think I have been of anything in my entire life” he replied. The crowds had dispersed now, and as the two walked, their hands fell together naturally, their pinkies intertwining. It would be hardest on the children, but it would work out. Walking with her by his side, Harry thought back to their days together at Hogwarts. “Nothing is quite as simple as it is in school, is it?” he asked softly. “No, Harry. Never as simple. But if what you want is worthwhile, its always worth the work.” He knew in his heart that she was right, of course, for Hermione always knew best. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/53 "2013-06-05T15:49:32Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > When Dave was in the alien zoo/alien laboratory ‘cage’ at the end of **2001: A Space Odyssey** , the reason he kept seeing older versions of himself before becoming them is because the aliens were folding time. Before he was able to make the transition into Star Child, the aliens knew he first had to die, and either they didn’t want to wait that long, or perhaps thought it would be inhumane to force Dave to live out decades alone in a room, so they joined points of his future timeline to his past. When Dave saw himself, he was actually seeing his future timeline moving towards his present timeline. When they touched, his past self vanished. > > … Gosh, wait. Isn’t that what all of my cohort decided on back in the 1980s? Yes, yes it was. Seriously, it isn’t “canon” but we all sure thought that. That was a well-written explanation, by the way. Reading the novelization (made during the movie) makes some of the visuals less difficult to understand (read: baffling). I can’t tell you how confused I was at the age of eight when my father took me to see it in the theater. I loved it. But, I had little context originally. But, heck, I was eight. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/54 "2013-06-05T16:46:29Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > The Elizabeth Shue characters from “The Karate Kid”, “Adventures in Babysitting” and “Leaving Las Vegas” are all the same girl. > > Crushed after being dumped by Ralph Macchio, she follows her scholarship to Northwestern University, but is left bankrupt from legal fees after defending herself from vindictive parents after one bad night of babysitting. > > Her scholarship money gone, her spirit broken, she finds herself in Las Vegas, where she meets Nicholas Cage’s character. > > * * * That might have worked, except that at the start of KK2, it is clearly stated that she dumped him, not the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/55 "2013-06-05T16:53:31Z")
> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#): > > Here’s one I saw on Reddit which is pretty good: Akeem and Semmi in _Coming To America_ [are half-brothers.](http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1c86pk/akeem_and_semmi_brothers/) I like this one but it seems to ignore that the “irreverent servant” is a classic stock character. I always assumed he was a royal court member. Not a servant, but also not a member of the royal family. ---
**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/56 "2013-06-05T16:56:53Z")
In _Predator_, the characters played by [Bill Duke and Jesse Ventura are lovers](http://frommidnight.blogspot.com/2010/04/are-blain-and-mac-from-predator-gay.html). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/57 "2013-06-05T18:09:21Z")
> [@bump](#): > > That doesn’t even make sense; in medieval Earth times, people were more mature and responsible at younger ages. > > I recently read a book about medieval England, and this is a point that the author made very clearly- they’d execute 7 year olds for crimes back then, and women got married at 12 or so, and would have 4 kids by the time they were 20. Men in their early 20s were generals, and were experienced warriors already. > > In Roman times, boys were eligible to be soldiers in the Legions at 14. > > In light of that, it’s not at all unusual to have the ASoIAF characters be as young as they are. None of that has anything to do with them actually being more mature. It was just a more brutal time. The bigger problem is just that fiction seems to do that, a lot. Main character kids, in any fantasy setting, rarely seem to act like kids. Even canon Harry Potter seems too smart. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/58 "2013-06-05T18:11:32Z")
Woody originally belonged to Andy’s dead father. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/59 "2013-06-05T18:41:03Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > Woody originally belonged to Andy’s dead father. Another Toy Story theory I have seen kicked around was that Andy’s parents were recently divorced at the beginning of the first movie. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148/60 "2013-06-05T19:01:08Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Kim Possible is related to Doc Savage, through Pat Savage, on her Mother’s side of the family. Another Kim Possible one – the seemingly inept authorities (Global Justice) etc effectively use Kim as a psy-ops weapon, having concluded that nothing undercuts the average evil mad scientist quite like “I was beaten by a high-school-cheerleader _girl_”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fanwanks-or-fan-theories-you-love-open-spoilers/660148.md?page=4)