# Fargo S1E6 \[Open spoilers\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897 "2014-05-21T04:52:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/61 "2014-05-24T00:21:34Z")

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Speaking of which, think we’ll get a wood chipper moment this season?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/62 "2014-05-24T01:43:28Z")

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It’s possible.

Pretty good episode, all in all, although the sfx of the people in the blizzard looked fake to me. Too gray/glossy, somehow. And how did the two Fargo hitmen find Malvo in all that snow?

I loved how the supermarket king got the garage attendant to open the gate without paying - saying something like: “Do you go to church? Then open the gate, goddamit - the Lord Almighty commands it!” Much better than shooting the guy, as happened in the movie _Fargo_.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/63 "2014-05-24T03:13:11Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Are you sure? I recall seeing blood pooling underneath and around her torso.

I slowed that down and re-watched it; I still couldn’t tell. The light is so blue it’s impossible to see whether it’s blood or her jacket. I want to say the latter though, because of the shape. there’s the hint of a point where the bottom of the zipper would be.

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I don’t know about you but I think most Midwestern people, like myself, have been in whiteout conditions. That’s pretty much what they’re like. You can see about 20 feet in front of you, and then the road just disappears into a sea of white. All you can do is drive slowly and hope the person in front of you is still moving. If you stop, there’s a chance you’ll get rear ended. It’s not much different than driving in really heavy rain.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hErAL-sN2a0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hErAL-sN2a0)
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> . . .

Yes, Joey P. there are are blizzards in Virginia. 😉 The MidWest does not have a monopoly on bad winter weather, you just get it first and more often.

> [@Cayuga](#):
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> When Messrs. Wrench and Numbers showed up at Sam Hess’s office the first time, they introduced themselves by saying, “We’re from Fargo.” So yeah, “Fargo” is , as **TruCelt** said, the guy eating the fish, or maybe the organization or branch office he’s the head of.

I also think he’s next on Malvo’s “Arya List.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/64 "2014-05-24T19:49:06Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I slowed that down and re-watched it; I still couldn’t tell. The light is so blue it’s impossible to see whether it’s blood or her jacket. I want to say the latter though, because of the shape. there’s the hint of a point where the bottom of the zipper would be.

Another point in favor of the Jacket Theory is that blood wouldn’t pool up on top of the snow the way it would on top of a floor or other hard surface.

(I’m no expert, but I’d guess that because of the relatively porous nature of the snow, most of the blood would remain under the body, instead of spreading out (to match the appearance of that ‘shape’ (jacket or whatever) seen next to Molly in the episode.))

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/65 "2014-05-24T23:15:42Z")

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Wasn’t there a promo scene early on of Numbers shooting a guy through a bag of snack food? Did I miss or forget that scene? If Numbers is dead (which seems most likely), he’s not going to snackshooting anybody.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/66 "2014-05-25T01:32:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wasn’t there a promo scene early on of Numbers shooting a guy through a bag of snack food? Did I miss or forget that scene? If Numbers is dead (which seems most likely), he’s not going to snackshooting anybody.

That wasn’t numbers - that was Malvo - and to my knowledge/recollection - it hasn’t happened yet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/67 "2014-05-25T11:42:40Z")

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This writer has no intention of playing with form. Honestly folks, from the pov of dramatic structure, she is not and cannot be dead.

There is enough here already anyway; will the Church get the blackmail money, will the new bad guys get the old bad guy, or vice versa, will the good odd couple get the weird little guy, or vice versa, will the guy get the gal, or vice versa (yah!).

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/68 "2014-05-25T17:11:42Z")

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For what it is worth the actress who plays Molly is credited at IMDB with the next four episodes. So she either survives or is in flashbacks.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/69 "2014-05-26T04:30:02Z")

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This was my favorite episode of the whole show by a long ways: action packed, gory goodness. The chorale music during the whole gym trainer murder scene was absolute genius. There was a connection between the visuals and the soundtrack in my mind that I didn’t quite understand when I was watching the scene, but looking back I realize the light streaming in through the bullet holes in the door mirrored the way light pours into church windows . . .

I agree Molly’s not dead. There’s definitely a romantic subplot with her and Grimly, _plus_ I’m hoping for a scene where she ends up with a hospital bed right next to Lester (or next to the bandaged guy, who could tell her about Lester).

I wonder how Wrench fared in the snowstorm - can’t be easy being deaf in a whiteout. I was mentally yelling at everyone during the fight to just stay low to the ground in the snow (and Grimly, I know you’re not the brightest crayon in the box, but why on EARTH did you shoot?!).

Lester’s two biggest issues right now are the bandaged patient and his nephew. Oh, and Molly. And Wrench. And the other cops. And - well, I guess he’s got a lot of problems . . .

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/70 "2014-05-26T20:38:15Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> …Grimly, I know you’re not the brightest crayon in the box, but why on EARTH did you shoot?! . . .

Seriously. This incident makes it difficult to go on seeing him as a sympathetic character (and potential partner for Molly, assuming that she survived).

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/71 "2014-05-26T20:45:14Z")

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I hope Molly is ok but she immediately dropped like a sack of rocks without even a whimper, that didn’t look like someone getting knocked out from taking a hit to a bullet proof vest. It looked like a switch being turned off.

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**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/72 "2014-05-26T21:32:07Z")

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to be fair, Molly kinda has to go down like a sack of rocks.

The theme of different ways of killing continues; this week: cut throat, volley of police fire.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/73 "2014-05-27T03:47:03Z")

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It could well be that he shot past her to the guy who had just hit her in the vest. If she’d been hit in the vest _from behind_ I reckon it might look like that. . .

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/74 "2014-05-27T13:18:33Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wasn’t there a promo scene early on of Numbers shooting a guy through a bag of snack food? Did I miss or forget that scene? If Numbers is dead (which seems most likely), he’s not going to snackshooting anybody.

I vaguely remember a scene like that too from seeing the promos. They were in a gas station or something like that. They’ve done flashbacks on the show- Malvo dragging that guy from his office, Lester buying socks and a shotgun, so Numbers could show up again in flashback.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/75 "2014-05-27T13:29:10Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> For what it is worth the actress who plays Molly is credited at IMDB with the next four episodes. So she either survives or is in flashbacks.

FWIW, even if she is dead (no idea one way or the other yet) and not in the rest of the show, it’s very possible that it’s in her contract that her name appears in the credits for all the episodes. Or they did it so people can’t figure out what’s going on by checking IMDB.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Seriously. This incident makes it difficult to go on seeing him as a sympathetic character (and potential partner for Molly, assuming that she survived).

Unless Gus hit a bad buy and Molly laying in the snow has nothing to do Gus discharging his weapon.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/76 "2014-05-27T20:38:53Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Unless Gus hit a bad buy and Molly laying in the snow has nothing to do Gus discharging his weapon.

I do hope that’s the case.

If Gus accidentally shot Molly, the guilt of that added to the guilt of having let Malvo go on the night of the shootings at Lester’s, would make him…interesting to the writers.

So from the showrunners’ point of view, it could go either way.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/77 "2014-05-27T21:47:21Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I hope Molly is ok but she immediately dropped like a sack of rocks without even a whimper, that didn’t look like someone getting knocked out from taking a hit to a bullet proof vest. It looked like a switch being turned off.

It didn’t _look_ like anything to me. She was lost in the blizzard.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/78 "2014-05-27T22:12:30Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> \*Mind you, there’s no reason why Lester’s fingerprints can’t be on the hammer.

Seems to me that Chaz’s natural reaction if he discovers the hammer is to grab it to look at it. That would put his fingerprints on it, further indicating his guilt.

> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> I don’t quite understand why Malvo went to such elaborate lengths to have the gym-guy killed. Malvo himself could have just offed him, any ol’ time. Seemed like a huge fancy set-up, for no good reason.

My concern about that was that, once the shooting stopped, it would be easy to see that Don wasn’t doing that of his own free will. The tape would be obvious.

> [@](#):
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> Mrs Haven and I gotta watch the old FARGO movie again. Was the dept-store magnet waiting in the same parking lot that was a location in the movie?

Didn’t pay that much attention, but “Gustavson Parking” was a nice touch, as was the newscaster calling her co-anchor “Norm,” which was Marge’s husband’s name in the film.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fargo-s1e6-open-spoilers/688897/79 "2014-05-27T23:00:44Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Didn’t pay that much attention, but “Gustavson Parking” was a nice touch, as was the newscaster calling her co-anchor “Norm,” which was Marge’s husband’s name in the film.

The parking garage where Carl shot Gustavson was identified in the movie as the top level of the Radisson but was actually shot in a different location. From Wikipedia:

> [@](#):
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> The Minneapolis Club Parking Ramp (located on S. 8th St. and 3rd Ave S.) was used for the scene wherein Wade delivers the money to Carl. The end of the scene, where Carl exits the parking garage, was actually shot at a different garage down the street – the Centre Village Parking Ramp (located at S. 8th St. and 5th Ave S.).

> **[Fargo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_(film))**
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> Fargo usually refers to:
> Fargo may also refer to:

The TV series is shot in and around Calgary, so it was almost certainly a different location.

There was also a “Norm’s Pizza” sign in the background of a scene in the first episode.

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